Penguin

[dogboy]

I had a site get killed then it popped back up. 

I thought Ras even mentioned this? There were issues that they fixed? Which means its going to be tremendously difficult to troubleshoot this one...

[2much]

Some sites got popped and came back, but many didn't.  A few of mine included.  A few other sites I watch too also got dinged.

Perhaps I'm wrong here but this algo seems like a pretty monumental shift to me, most of the SERP's I watch changed. 

I'm starting to believe that it's not as easy as before to figure it out exactly.  I remember when all we had to do was look at the age a domain was registered and immediately we could see the trend and started getting links on aged sites. 

I'm thinking Penguin is a combination of human reviewers, anchor density, analytics metrics, and general quality of the backlinks.  This article gives some decent ideas on how to visualize the different ratios:

http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2173658/Google-Penguin-Unnatural-Links-How-to-Protect-Your-Site-Moving-Forward

I'm starting to get a system down now.  Lots of links in articles going out to guest blogs.  Lots of contextual links.  Instead of paying an intern to write the articles I'm paying the intern to manage it and buying articles from textbrokers.  It's starting to come together.

[hungrygoose]

Yup 2much that's working but also add some twiddling of thumbs for 13 - 40 days for the link juice to flow fully. 

[I, Brian]

I had a site get killed then it popped back up. 

I thought Ras even mentioned this? There were issues that they fixed? Which means its going to be tremendously difficult to troubleshoot this one...

Google cocked-up in the first place, so it's natural to expect they will be slowly rolling back the dial for weeks to come.

This all looks very much like we used to see happen between the end of 2003 with Florida, and other major updates for a year after, such as Allegra (easter 2004?).

Point being, biggest update I've seen for years, unsettled and irrelevant results on a level I haven't seen for years, biggest c##k-up I've seen for years. So back to the old Google style of keeping quiet, pretending everything's normal, while rolling back the dial.

Am expecting to see SERP's keeping changing for weeks and more sites pop back in - lesser "offenders".

ADDED:

http://www.seomoz.org/ugc/the-penguin-update-how-google-identifies-spam

We've seen Gmail blamed for previous updates, but I think this guy is just floating speculation. There's no suggestion that he's seen anything, and is just throwing an idea into the wild for discussion. Personally, I didn't read anything in there that struck as useful or relevant.

[hungrygoose]

Soo many wp sites with 2-3 spun posts and the default themes ranking now. Seems to be getting worse!

[Chunkford]

lol, probably goes to show how many people were actually gaming Google's system.
It will get back to normal once the masses adapt to the new ways and the insane negativeness turned down

[Chunkford]

BTW here's a result for sh*ts and giggles - http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=redding+motorcycle+lawyer

[JasonD]

F*** Me!

[dogboy]

I like the disclaimer at the bottom...

In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org.

...never seen that one before.

[JasonD]

I see lots and lots and lots of them.

It's standard Google fair to link to them at ChillingEffects when there is a DMCA removal.

I'ver always thought that as the DMCA sender you could.

DMCA Google about 3rd party site breeching rights
Google would then send the notice to Chilling Effects
Chilling Effects will put the notice online
Google will link to it

Which means that Google are breeching my copyrighted letter to them and passing it to a 3rd party who is making it public, whereupon Google link to it.

so....

DMCA Chilling Effects
and Google for linking to it....

leading to a very large DMCA circle jerk....

[Drastic]

Seeing a new tweak from yesterday.

Some winners and some losers.

[hungrygoose]

Hum how interesting. http://www.seroundtable.com/google-penguin-check-15165.html

Query -amazon.com

Seems to return results very similar to ore penguin results.

[Gurtie]

yup, definitely interesting, as normal the comments are better than the article  Does the -something.com string actually kick the search to a different database, does anyone know? Sounds a lot like it.

If so, and since its almost a month since Penguin, isn't it a bit strange they've not synced everything up yet? Perhaps they're expecting more adjustments

[Rooftop]

Seeing a new tweak from yesterday.

Some winners and some losers.

I've got some losers.  Stuff that most people here would consider to be pretty innocent too. Nothing worse than low quality directories on the backlink front and reasonable other stuff to balance them.

[hungrygoose]

I didn't see any changes my end.... probably cause a lot of my stuff has already dived