WikiLeaks Founder Added To The Interpol Wanted List

Started by bill, December 01, 2010, 04:28:29 AM

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mivox

Quote from: grnidone on December 08, 2010, 10:22:27 PM
I don't like that some of the military informants were named, however.  That basically puts a target on their head, and I don't like that.  I fear what some foreign governments would do to these people if they captured them...
From what I've heard, the informant/collaborator names were redacted after that was pointed out (no doubt too late for some, but the effort was made), and he'd said the documents they had yet to release were being reviewed line-by-line for any other names that needed to be redacted for the safety of the subjects.

QuoteI remember a long time ago, I watched a tv show about an illegal ham radio station that was playing music and the FCC was trying to shut them down.  So they put the transmitter into the back of a jeep and drove around in circles to escape from being "triangulated" and found.  That's what this case reminds me of...only on a massive scale. 
Sounds exactly like the end of "Pump Up The Volume". heh Either that's what you're remembering, or they based the end of the movie on what you're thinking of?
I would rather regret the things that I have done than the things that I have not. ~Lucille Ball

Peter



mivox

The fallout from all of this is just fscking hilarious at the moment. All the news organizations getting all excited about some DDOS attacks... talking ever-so-gravely about that nefarious "internet organization known as Anonymous," it's just amusing the hell out of me. I do hope it drags on a bit longer...  ;D
I would rather regret the things that I have done than the things that I have not. ~Lucille Ball

agerhart

I dunno, seems pretty f-ing stupid to me.

You want to promote open information, great. 

Hacking corporate sites because they don't back you? that's childish.

Doesn't help your cause.

The whole thing seems f-ing stupid.

Brad

The press is spending so much time on Assange (sp?) but the real story here, IMO, is how did all these allegedly confidential memos got into the hands of an Army Private and who was in charge of securing these documents in the first place.

4Eyes

QuoteDoesn't help your cause.

Anything that keeps the story in the news helps 'their' cause - as does anything that makes 'big business' realise that there will be commercial implications to their caving in to government pressure.

If I were in 'their' camp, and my main skill as in organising DDOS attacks, then that is what I would do - in an uneven battle, one has to use whatever small advantages one has.

mivox

Quote from: agerhart on December 10, 2010, 05:42:20 AM
Hacking corporate sites because they don't back you? that's childish.

Assange isn't doing any hacking sitting in jail. He has zero control over what anon does with their DDOS scripts.

Blaming him for the website takedowns makes as much sense as blaming him for the US government's poor control over their 'confidential' information.

Quote from: Bradthe real story here, IMO, is how did all these allegedly confidential memos got into the hands of an Army Private and who was in charge of securing these documents in the first place.

Apparently the network allowed anyone logged in to download data onto USB devices, to facilitate information sharing with our allies. And, it would seem, anyone else the copier wants to hand it out to.
I would rather regret the things that I have done than the things that I have not. ~Lucille Ball

Brad

>>information sharing with our allies

That worked!   :D

Seriously, I think the Australian Foreign Minister nailed it when he said the real persons at fault are those in Washington who did not make sure the information was secure.

Peter

The fact that 2.5m people had legal access to the cables makes me wonder if this isn't part of a bigger game being played by the powers that be.

agerhart

QuoteBlaming him for the website takedowns

I didn't say it was his fault.  The people doing the hacking are stupid.

Quotethe real persons at fault are those in Washington who did not make sure the information was secure.

Agree 100%

mivox

Quote from: Peter on December 11, 2010, 01:56:10 PM
The fact that 2.5m people had legal access to the cables makes me wonder if this isn't part of a bigger game being played by the powers that be.

2.5m?! I heard "thousands" and thought that was bad enough. If it was actually 2.5m, I think any claim by the government that the cables were in ANY way sensitive or high security is bullshit. Frankly, the fact that people were allowed to download files to removable media makes me think the same, but giving 2.5m people the ability to do so is just absurd.

Quote from: agerhart on December 11, 2010, 05:02:52 PM
I didn't say it was his fault.  The people doing the hacking are stupid.

Ahh, when you said "because they don't back you" it sounded as though you were associating the script kiddies directly to Assange and/or Wikileaks. My bad.

Calling them hackers is giving them a bit much credit, considering a copy of the DDOS script was available to be run via web form on Thursday. Hell, it's probably still available at a different location.
I would rather regret the things that I have done than the things that I have not. ~Lucille Ball

4Eyes

#27
QuoteThe people doing the hacking are stupid.

Nah - in the mix of all concerned, they are no more stupid than any of the other parties, and certainly less stupid than most involved.

The people who let the data out?
The Swedish legal system for being manipulated?
Sarah Palin for accusing Assange (an Australian) of un-American activities (ermm... well, just... ermm}
The Multinational finance companies for acting against him 'on order'

....etc.... there is a lot of stupidity going on in that bunch. DDOS against some of those attacking WikiLeaks does't seem stupid at all compared to them.



bill

This is a turning point...I'm starting to get my news from The Core.  ;D




He was granted bail, but he's still in the slammer until he can raise the funds?