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Started by gm66, April 29, 2016, 12:00:58 PM

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gm66

Are .info domains still considered spammy ?


Happy Friday :)

Gary.
Civilisation is a race between disaster and education ...

rcjordan

I had one that ranked well. Traffic was good.  Wasn't in a competitive serp. Sold those sites.

Just checked G, still #1 out of 116k

gm66

Civilisation is a race between disaster and education ...

rcjordan

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This is a travel site for an obscure, semi-exclusive resort area.  I always thought .info felt appropriate relative to the content (which was thin, but decent --almost respectable). Also, users aren't typically techies.  That's why I thought I could pull it off. That said, it might not work for spam-prone content categories where users have been stung and are more vigilant.

ergophobe

Google's official word is that TLD makes no difference (geo considerations aside).

They say that .edu and .gov have no special power, .info has no special pain. But that other factors associated with the sites on those TLDs drive the differences. In other words, at least officially, it does you no good to buy a .edu domain if you could versus buying a .info domain. If you could buy harvard.edu versus harvard.info, there would be a huge difference, but (again at least officially) no difference based solely on the TLD, but on the characteristics of the sites themselves.

Moz analysis of their ranking correlations says

QuoteThis data gives us more reason to believe Google's webspam chief, Matt Cutts, when he says .gov, .info and .edu are not special cased and don't receive special bonuses or penalties to rankings

https://moz.com/blog/google-vs-bing-correlation-analysis-of-ranking-elements

ergophobe

In looking for that reference, I also came across this

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2015/07/googles-handling-of-new-top-level.html

By the way, your question was
QuoteAre .info domains still considered spammy

And RC answered it, I think, from the user perspective. I was trying to throw out the official Google perspective.

Personally, as a user, I'm a bit leery of .info still, but with so many domains coming out people are getting used to diversity in the TLD I think.

When they first became available, I tried to convince a friend that he *needed* a .io domain for his business - it would have been perfect. But he said no, people only trust .com

Now I see tons of successful and respected .io sites and I wish I had just bought the domain for him and sat on it for a couple of years until he was ready to use it.

rcjordan

>Now I see tons of successful and respected .io sites

Same. But I **still** don't trust them.  I hesitate every time for a moment before the click.  During that moment, I automaticlly review the context. Is this a category noted for malware? Who referred? If it's in a serp, what are my alternatives?

ergophobe

#7
RC - that's how I am still with .info, but .io seem to all be cool, hip app companies that don't believe in being evil ;-)

ergophobe

RC's comment makes me think that there is a follow-on SEO effect. If it's true, and it seems increasingly that it is, that Google uses CTR to impact rankings i some way or another, anything that hurts CTR hurts SEO to some degree.

So you lose twice - once by the simple fact of lower CTR and a second time by potentially getting pushed down in the rankings.

buckworks

Of interest: do a search for "spain" and note where spain.info ranks.

rcjordan

>The Tourist Offices of Spain are the representatives abroad of the Instituto de Turismo de EspaƱa

Official Tourist Offices get a handjob, though they don't need it because they get massive free backlinks.  But still, it makes a good point to a client.

gm66

I have so much to learn :)


Enjoy the long weekend,

Gary.
Civilisation is a race between disaster and education ...

gm66

I've been trying to build software to get the info i need, but programmatically it's quite hard, proxies blah ..

I did think maybe we could build a simple distributed HTTP proxy, and use it to route G queries, all it takes is enough numbers and variable exit nodes and it may be viable ?

Gold dust for SEO, and enough SEOs to make it viable if we rotated requests etc, but this must have been tried before?
Civilisation is a race between disaster and education ...

gm66

Question i've been meaning to ask, crap results on search, what sites are there that monitor, probe and have test sites to test G as a program ?

I'm thinking a dummy site and get it to rank for extremely obscure queries, then any change in on-site would be quickly reflected in rankings ?

I've found no info, can't quite form the right query to probe the beast about probing the beast ;+}



Civilisation is a race between disaster and education ...

Rumbas

I have never ever had a problem with any kind of TLD/ccTLD. In fact of all the domains I've owned and worked on, 95% have been ccTLD.

.info ranks just fine.