Try to find a lan-only, app-connected programmable thermostat

[rcjordan]

> you must have mistaken me for someone who wants to f### with IP numbers

Yeah, that's me, and I haven't really changed. Those devices I happen to own that emit their own wi-fi (or serve html in the case of some larger appliances) and I just sign in have me thinking I have the right mindset, too.  LAST thing I want is to be assembling some custom-crafted solution. I've had my fill of supporting my brilliant solutions to life's problems, hhh.   I'm Luddite by choice on this. (As a young man, I made a similar decision about learning electronics, schematics, etc. and while I _very_ often regret not knowing a diode from a resistor, it was the right choice.)

**BUT**

Now we're in the Disposable Age replete with cheap Chinee goodies and I happen to be able to afford modest experimentation.  Take the standalone wifi hub I asked about.  Hell, I could just buy one, plug it in and see if it works. If it's a hit, great! If it's a miss, oh well, throw it in a box.  I'm not being cavalier about the $35, but my track record indicates that I tend to come out ahead on these bets.  The BIG problem, though, is that I don't have the time for my projects as-is, and  these experiments always become projects.

SO, the Rpi might work for you for smart climate control but I'll probably go with the Vera so I can have a vendor to blame for the crappy UI. I'm just waiting for  CES 2017 to hit my news reader.

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BTW, climate control is the hardest of the smarthome problems.  We could just make a few lights work on an app like most people do and be happy, hhh.

[rcjordan]

>latency

Bezos re the Echo: "Let me give you the pain upfront: Your target for latency is one second."

[ergophobe]

Actually, I'm right there with you - I have enough unfinished projects without dreaming up new ones.

I grew up in a culture where people generally fixed their own cars and built stuff - much of the furniture in my house was made by my grandfather. It wasn't until I was in my late 20s that a friend pointed out that for a sum of money, often quite a small sum of money, you can make "projects" you don't enjoy go away.

So, no, not looking to cobble together something with RPi unless I think I would get something out of it I could do 20 more times for a decent profit.

[rcjordan]

Then bookmark this and wait 6 months. It's my top contender.  Z-wave, so it should drive that t-stat you posted.

https://www.amazon.com/Vera-Control-VeraPlus-US-Smart-Controller/product-reviews/B01BX9P89Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_rvwer?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=recent&pageNumber=1

[ergophobe]

Reminder set...  Realistically, it would take me six months to get to this anyway.

I think I'll muddle through this winter and grit my teeth when people leave the door open for 45 minutes to load the car while the thermostat is set to 76 degrees (no kidding - Southern Californians are utterly clueless about this and do it constantly; growing up in Vermont, this was guaranteed to get you yelled at, possibly hit).

But we just added A/C...

It occurs to me that I've seen sensors that tell you if a door or window is open, so in theory you could probably set up a simple decision tree
- if door or window is open
- heating/cooling system is shut down

[rcjordan]

Manufacturer got called out on security. Answered in comments.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3N4HVKMDPQ04I/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01BX9P89Y