Garmin road mapping Queensferry Crossing

[Rupert]

Just come from a trip to scotland, and was running my new Garmin along side my phone with waze. When I came to the new Queensferry Crossing, replacing the Forth Bridge near Edinburugh,  Waze was aware of the new road.  Garmin was not.

It opened in Aug.  google is aware of it too. 

WTF?  I have live traffic and regularly updated speed cameras, but a huge project road like that is still not on the map 3 months after it has been opened.  They had plenty of notice. Its even on my new AA paper map.


Is that normal in the rest of the world?

[ergophobe]

It used to be that everyone was buying from the same two sources, including Google, and they were all equally bad. If people plugged in our address, it would deliver them to a massive retaining wall about a mile from our house.

At a certain point, Google had enough data (5-6 years ago??) that they decided to depend on their data. For a while it was *abysmal* Absolutely awful in our area. They were depending on things like where people tagged photos and a lot of people were tagging longitude and lattitude round to two decimal places, which for a lot of landmarks put them essentially at our house and 10-20 miles from their actual destination. When I would work in the yard, I would field questions all day long.

Finally, Google got their shit together with mapping and is way better and way more up to date than Garmin sources. It tok another few *years* for Garmin to remap the addresses in our area so that they were actually within a reasonable margin of error.

[rcjordan]

> Google got their sh## together with mapping

I'd say it kicked into high gear when they got crowdsourcing with Waze.  Waze 'royal' users (to use CaboWabo's terminology) can go in and directly edit maps and their editing is validated pretty quickly --stuff like moving off-ramps after DOT construction.

[sugarkane]

> Google got their sh## together with mapping

Google still thinks I live at the guesthouse down the road, and keeps asking me to review my own kitchen. It also thinks I have the local football club in my garden.

[Rupert]

Found another dead end the Garmin tried to take me down last night.
I just replaced a 2012 tomtom with this rubbish.  At least with the TomTom I did not expect it to be right.

Again, Garmin Sat Nav will be dead with driverless cars.  A lot of businesses about to disappear.

[rcjordan]

>Garmin
>Tomtom

If you're going to forego G maps or Waze for a 'traditional' gps you might look at Sygic. I have the pro version and quite like it (particularly the lane guidance inset feature). Though I mostly use G maps as it provides a lazy way to bookmark & access destinations on the phone's home screen, I keep Sygic because it doesn't require a data connection.

http://www.sygic.com/gps-navigation

[Rupert]

Sygic

Ok looks interesting Waze and Garmin are running together at the mo.  I did 1600 miles last week, and so I need them both.  But I also need a phone...

[Rupert]

Looks like I just got a map update. I am hoping the speed limit info has come back too.

Garmin seem impossible to contact if there is a problem. Very close to returning it.