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Being prepared!
« on: October 28, 2016, 08:19:04 AM »
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I can see two types of Prepper threads:

1. Soft Prepper - breakdown in global trade, shortages that are not life threatening but change lifestyle. Breakdown in trust in financial institutions .  At it's worse the soft prepper scenario is a bit like what happened to the Russians after the fall of the USSR or the Great Depression.  Life and govt still clanks on but there are big disruptions in jobs, currency, finances, ownership, pensions etc.

2. Hard Prepper - real dramatic breakdown in govt and civil order.  Like giant solar electromagnetic pulse scenario that RC talked about previously. Food, fuel, water, services shortages that could threaten life and health.

I hope people have things to say about broad issues like these but sometimes prepping needs careful thought on a much smaller scale.

I've just had an experience where I wish I'd been better prepared. My mother-in-law had a bad fall and we left home on short notice late at night. We ended up going to Winnipeg and spending a couple of days in hospital waiting rooms while she got a pacemaker.

What does this have to do with prepping? Well, I was only partly ready to leave on short notice. There was I, 300 miles from home, with cables and chargers for all my devices but no gloves or scarf. Not smart for late October! We didn't have blankets or winter gear in the vehicle, either.

My purse wasn't big enough to carry a water bottle, snacks, an iPad or a book, things one is apt to want during long hours of waiting. I was wishing for a tote bag. And what about purse security during naps? I was wishing for a waist pack. And a pillow! Small things can make a big difference to comfort and security. If you have them with you, that is.

... to be continued ...

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Re: Being prepared!
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2016, 12:00:27 PM »
(Roughly maintained) Grab & Go bags are a part of 'Everyday|Travel Prepping' for us.  One thing that I've found that does NOT work, is to think we're going to use certain items out of the bag routinely and then put them back.  We end up cannibalizing the bag.  Buy stuff and dedicate it to a bag.

We're building Packing Lists for various travel scenarios on Trello.  Sorta works.

As for prepping in general, I'm not getting ready for the apocalypse, I'd just like to have 3-4 weeks of being able to scrape by without too much deprivation & hardship if we lost major infrastructure.  Though I was overseas at the time, my neighborhood was inacessable for a few days and without power for 10-12 days after Isabel.

#1 is a sustainable supply of drinking water
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006QF3TW4

#2 Food --easy, just buy some tubs off Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00955DUHQ

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>tote bag
We've just switched to small, schoolkid's-type, soft, frameless backsacks.  We opted for the simple ones without so many pockets that tend to hide stuff rather than organize it. $25-ish at Target.

« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 12:10:00 PM by rcjordan »

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Re: Being prepared!
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2016, 12:23:34 PM »
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>lists

I'm finding that bastardizing Grocery Shopping Apps such as 'Our Groceries' into general-duty reminder lists works well for me.   I haven't done a Grab & Go list but it would work in lieu of a cloud-kept list.

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Re: Being prepared!
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2016, 12:34:25 PM »
Grab & Go bags  AKA BUG OUT BAGS or BOBS are for those folks in metro areas that have to GET THE F OUT.

If Y'all are prepared, you should stay PUT, make yourself invisible and don't need no Fing BAG -imo
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Re: Being prepared!
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2016, 01:39:50 PM »
>> sustainable supply of drinking water

A note from cold country: Protect your water filters from freezing. Residual water within the filter would expand as it turned to ice and likely damage the filter's functionality.

>> Buy stuff and dedicate it to a bag.

Yes.

I was well organized in some ways, but I'll be adding the above-mentioned things to my grab-and-go.

The vehicle was full of gas, so we could set out without hesitation. I keep some cash for grab-and-go so we'd have been okay if there was a problem with credit cards. That amplifies the purse security issue, though.

One detail that worked well was that I had the app for my favourite hotel chain on my iPad mini. When we decided to find a hotel instead of spending Tuesday night at the hospital I was able to book a room with just a few clicks.

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Re: Being prepared!
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2016, 02:35:24 PM »
One thing I've been thinking about is light source at night. Plenty of flashlights, but without a ton of batteries, they won't last long.

What's the best solution for solar charging a set of eneloops?

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Re: Being prepared!
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2016, 03:45:12 PM »
>eneloops
>solar

First, they make led bulbs to retrofit the old camping lanterns and road emergency lights you likely have stashed around the house. Convert them. One of those old 6v camping lanterns will run for hours & hours if only powering an led.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MP8MGO/

I'll post separately about standby battery power.

>water
>solar
I wanted a cheap-ish solar bilge pump for when boats are on trailers in storage. For K.I.S.S. I want NO battery required, though.  It doesn't
have to pump much or often, just when enough condensate collects.

First attempt (last year) failed --couldn't get the pump to run without a battery & controller in the system.

Ordered this 2.5 watt fountain kit:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GDUV2W0/

and a float switch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013XSDREQ/

In full sun, it pumped more than 5 gallons an hour. It will only lift the water about 3 feet, but that's just enough to get it out of
the bottom of the bilge and to the scuppers.

It doesn't escape me that 3 of these daisy-chained as lift stations would provide a reservoir to flush my downstairs toilet.



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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2016, 04:00:18 PM »
>standby battery power

Besides now cheap led tech, usb 5vdc becoming a commodity has really altered the standby energy landscape.  BUT, the real common denominator is 12vdc systems in vehicles and boats.

5-Watt Solar Battery Trickle Charger

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0006JO0TC

I keep one of these in every car & truck
300W Power Inverter DC 12V to 110V AC Car Inverter with 3.1A Dual USB Car Adapter

https://www.amazon.com/BESTEK-300W-Power-Inverter-Adapter/dp/B004MDXS0U/

With the above and one of the batteries out of your lawnmower, cars, boats you could limp along pretty well with solar generation.

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Re: Being prepared!
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2016, 04:21:21 PM »
>coat

I **HIGHLY** recommend getting a fleece cape or poncho that stays in the car. Grey or some other dirt-hiding color. Something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-L-Bean-Polartec-Fleece-Grey-Hooded-Cape-Poncho-Wrap-Three-Button-Front-/222193465325

You can sometimes find them cheap at Wallyword or Target.  I can't tell you how many times I've gone to get one of these capes because the restaurant or waiting room is being kept at freezing.

I recommend a cape rather than a coat because it spreads out to make a blanket.

Though not mentioned, get a couple of $1 plastic rain ponchos. The best/smallest pak I've found so far is at truck stops.  Came in handy at Hanoi, had 2 in my back pocket.

>pillow
We keep a dogbone-shaped travel pillow in the car.  I just upgraded my u-shaped airline travel pillow to the best/plushest I could find. I hadn't thought of putting one in my backsack for vehicle travel.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 04:23:16 PM by rcjordan »

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Re: Being prepared!
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2016, 05:10:58 PM »
My current car is a Subaru.  I've driven through enough snow storms over the years so I liked the idea of all wheel drive plus ground clearance.  Just in case.

So think about an all wheel drive or 4 wheel drive as a bug out vehicle if you can afford it.

I keep a bunch of emergency stuff in each vehicle:

simple tools
folding shovel
space blankets
chem light sticks
Water heater pot that plugs into cigarette lighter
Swiss army knife etc.

A word on Swiss Army Knives: they are inexpensive enough that you can buy a bunch and salt them around: vehicles (cars, ATV's, motorcycles), bug out bags, boat etc. Check Amazon.

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So why would folks wish to PREPARE?
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2016, 11:01:23 AM »
So why would folks wish to PREPARE?

Here is a LIST to discuss. (These are in MY order and MY phrasing) NOT a perfect list…

## Natural events:
Floods kill more people and cause more damage than anything else.
Yellowstone Caldera – My personal favorite  ;)
New Madrid &/or San Andreas faults
CAT 4 or 5 Hurricane
EMP – not manmade

## ManMade events:
Economic collapse brought on by factors such as China’s debt bubble, other debt bubbles created by the Fed, BOJ and Euro Central Banks
World War 3 or other Middle East debacles
EMP – Nuclear
Pandemics – that’s a FUN one

### Civil Unrest brought on by any or all of the above.
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Re: Being prepared!
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2016, 11:58:07 AM »
Good list. I would add to natural events:

Blizzards
Brush or forest fires

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Re: Being prepared!
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2016, 12:28:02 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2016, 05:56:48 AM »
I have to run away from tsunamis. I need a waterproof go-bag.

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