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Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« Reply #360 on: March 06, 2024, 09:47:30 PM »
>>1000 lb club

Good goal! Scary goal! Don't get hurt.

You have me thinking about just shooting for the 600 club. I'd be happy with that. I have a lot of running and climbing goals for this year, but no strength goals. I think for me that would break down as 250DL, 200 squat, 150 bench. Maybe a bit more on DL and less on BP I'm sorry to say.

For a while, I was trying to get back to a 305 deadlift, which is 2.2X bodyweight for me and fairly easy for 12 reps in my 40s, but just way way beyond me now. Many years of lack of access to a gym and I usually stop at 185 or 195 these days, and not 12 reps.

As for squats, I don't have a rack, so I can only front squat what I can clean from the ground. After a bit of whining about it, I decided that it's probably good for me to do that for a while so I don't get hurt.

I don't have indoor space for all that, but the master plan is to build an outdoor space that's covered so I can put a rack in there and make it easier to store weights conveniently and change weights and do proper squats.

For now my gym looks like this:
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Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« Reply #361 on: March 07, 2024, 10:32:29 PM »
>> several pats on the back

Thanks! One productivity-boosting thing I've learned over the years is to celebrate small victories.

I now have a set of three-pound dumbbells but haven't started using them yet.

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Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« Reply #362 on: August 26, 2024, 05:14:44 PM »
How are you all doing on this front?

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Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« Reply #363 on: August 28, 2024, 03:50:36 PM »
You know, I was just thinking of reviving this thread.

For me, it's been going pretty well. I've been reasonably consistent with running. I really fell off the wagon with climbing during the hot weather, but I got so bothered at myself that I woke up at 4am and couldn't get back to sleep and wrote down some ideas for getting back on track.

By the way, what got me riled is I had asked myself two questions:

1. What makes your heart sing?
2. What is stopping you from doing more of it?

Of course, some things on the list are not related to health and fitness. I've really enjoyed all the family gatherings we have had over the last two years even though the reasons were often sad (and sometimes joyous). But I realized that a lot of the things that make my heart sing involve getting outdoors and can be done close to home for very little money and definitely within the time I have available and my curent fitness level.

In other words, I had no decent excuse.

And yet... I wasn't doing those things very often. I was shocked to realize that none of my examples were from this year.

So... I'm trying to do them which led me to drive 3 hours to climb with friends (and Theresa) yesterday, which was amazing. Really enjoyed it and am feeling pretty excited about getting out now that temperatures have moderated a bit.

Others?

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« Reply #364 on: August 28, 2024, 10:31:32 PM »
I am glad you are making the effort to do more of what you love.  Perhaps physical fitness is just the byproduct of doing what you enjoy -- we should all be so lucky.

My motivation for exercise is really mostly self-preservation, though I do have to admit that looking fit and being relatively strong also helps to keep me going.  I suppose that's a type of vanity?

Your post has me thinking.  I don't necessarily enjoy exercise, but I do feel the pull of it and if I do not do it for very long it weighs on me -- it is like I am not doing something that I critical need to do.

I am still doing a basic weights and calisthenics routine that I repeat almost every day.  I probably average about 6 days a week.  In the evening I've been doing a short, 30 minute to an hour walk after dinner.  The motivation for the walk is to keep my blood pressure in check, and it seems to work for me.

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Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« Reply #365 on: August 29, 2024, 06:12:26 AM »
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1. What makes your heart sing?
2. What is stopping you from doing more of it?

Struggling to keep up the pace this year in Blighty.

Sue and I walk the dogs every day, so thats a lifesaver.

We have come to the cycling and swimming late in the summer, and a month trip on the bike in June didn't help, although we both lost weight on the trip, just by eating better, presumably as we were not under constant time pressure.

2 good questions. And the answer here is time. We took a big chunk of time out, and found that compressed everything else in the summer. People/things (work included) still pulling to hard.

For example the garden still needs doing. A month out meant a big catch up.

I think we are about to come out the other side, in that Lucy is just back at work, wee have a moving in trip this weekend so then might be able to breath. The down side is the nights are drawing in, so it starts to get harder to do evening activities.

We will see. Another year with no competitions (Oh except the odd Park run!)

Good call to bump this thread, it might help motivation :)  Thanks!

LM, that inspirational!
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Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« Reply #366 on: August 30, 2024, 01:09:32 AM »
Perhaps physical fitness is just the byproduct of doing what you enjoy -- we should all be so lucky.

That is certainly true. Someone (I forget who) once told me something about myself that rang true: "You're someone who has trouble doing things for secondary gain." And that's true. I have trouble working to make money. I have trouble exercising for longevity. I have done both, but I've also been fortunate to make my "play" do double duty for much of my life.

My sister and I are both interested in longevity, but she does not love any form of exercise. So she has gotten into rowing because it's easy on the joints, but rowers (unlike cyclists) have good bone density. So she does that. It's not a passion, just expedient. Whereas for me, I think I would run and climb and ski even if there was evidence they were bad for me and would shorten my life. I have seen how much easier it makes it for me compared to her.

My mom was the same way. I think if there were incontrovertible evidence that cross-country skiing was bad for your health, my mom would have skied 50+ days every winter regardless. She and I both get a huge boost in mood, almost spiritual experiences, from those outings. I miss my mom the most when XC skiing and feeling that joy and knowing that our best days together were those days we shared that joy and that, if she were with me, she would be feeling it too. It was especially true around her birthday in mid-April, when everyone was grumbling about the snow and praying for spring. After I left the house, she called me and said, "I had to call you because I can't say this to anyone else. It snowed on my birthday and I went skiing and I was so happy. It was my birthday present, but you're the only one I can say that too because everyone else is just wishing for summer to come"

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Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« Reply #367 on: August 30, 2024, 11:40:13 AM »
Just realised I'm almost 2 years on from starting to get back to regular exercising.  In terms of fitness goals, its going well, though if anything am in danger of pushing to obsessive levels by my own (low) standards.

I think I posted a bit earlier in this thread that I started cyclocross training, which led on to some racing, which led on to a lot more racing, which led on to taking training a lot more seriously, which is just about where I am now.

The new cyclocross season starts this Sunday.

In June I took on a personal trainer to help introduce some weight training having not done this in any serious way for 10+ years.  This has been a great help.  Very targeted to my cycle racing objectives and quick to feel the benefits.

Now I find myself trying to strike a balance between:

The fitness work...
1. Long bike ride to maintain base fitness (doing OK here, approx. 1 per week) - also throw in commuting by bike which adds another 30-40 miles a week or so.
2. Weight training - 1x PT session, 1x individual per week (meeting this mostly)
3. Coached Cyclocross skills training - 1x per week (nothing over the summer, but starting up next week and usually make this)
4. Interval training - just not doing this at the moment and need to get on with incorporating it
5. Racing!  This will be approx once every 2-3 weeks September to February with a quite spell through December.
6. Almost

The diet... I'm making much more considered choices with what I consume.  Balancing carbs at the right time, proteins, etc.  Cutting out alcohol around races and reducing generally.  Not scientific precision here, but conscious choices.

The bikes... some focus needed here to stay on top of maintenance and ensure races aren't compromised by the equipment.

Rest... consciously trying to get more sleep and plan rest days to avoid fatigue.

I feel a completely different level of health and fitness vs. 2 years ago, where the motivation to kick start was equal measures of physical and mental health improvement after losing some regular routines through the pandemic.  Plus hitting mid-40s, accepting that the peak was long behind me and wanting to take control of the things we can control.

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"You're someone who has trouble doing things for secondary gain."

Yep.  I love cycling, first, and secondly, I know its good for me, physically and mentally.

Cyclocross racing is a whole load of fun.  Not sure its wholly good for me physically.  I tend to have as many bruises and cuts on my legs and arms as my 6 and 9 year old boys.  There are far easier ways to stay fit, but I'm glad that at least cardiovascular and cognitive health appears to be a side benefit of competitively riding bicycles.



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Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« Reply #368 on: August 30, 2024, 09:47:07 PM »
>> Not sure its wholly good

This thought occurred to me too. When I said I would do these things even if they shortened my life, I was thinking of shortening my life through chronic effects (in the way smoking does).

In fact, climbing, mountaineering and backcountry skiing often do shorten lives through acute effects, like falling off a cliff or getting buried in an avalanche.

Looked at from an actuarial perspective, my "health and fitness" activities probably do lead to a shorter average lifespan. It certainly has for some people I have known. I think it's a case of increasing the median lifespan while decreasing the mean.

>> a month trip on the bike in June didn't help

I couldn't follow why that hurt your fitness, but I'm guessing that "cycling" refers to an h-bike* and "bike" refers to a g-bike*

*this is my little gripe about "e-bike" being a term and somehow, "bike" paths are allowed if you have a motorized two-wheeled vehicle with pedals that stores it's fuel in a lithium batter, but not if you have a motorized two-wheel vehicle with pedals (aka "moped") that stores its fuel as gasoline. So I started classifying "bikes" as

 - h-bike - a bike powered by internal combustion of energy stored as fats and glycogen
 - g-bike - a bike powered by internal combustion of energy stored as gasoline
 - e-bike - a bike powered by an electric motor using energy stored in a lithium battery

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Re: Core continuing commitment to health and fitness
« Reply #369 on: August 31, 2024, 07:14:05 AM »
Ah... motorbike :) Walking in the evenings, swimming off the Amalfi coast, Capri, Garda, the English Channel, walks in the alps, but loads of time sat in the saddle.

And don't you love an Italian supper?  The take all evening!

Three days on a ferry eating, drinking, reading watching the dolphins in the Bay of Biscay didn't help either.
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« Reply #370 on: September 01, 2024, 02:01:09 AM »
Sounds lovely though. You can't do everything.