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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: rcjordan on July 31, 2020, 01:50:17 PM

Title: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: rcjordan on July 31, 2020, 01:50:17 PM
"Compared to adults, the young kids had anywhere from 10 to 100 times the amount of viral RNA in their upper respiratory tract"

Study says that young children carry as much coronavirus in their noses as adults
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/study-hints-young-children-may-spread-covid-19-easily-adults-n1235301

Debbie says that aerosol transmission by kids may explain some of the at-home-being-good cases.  Anecdotally, no one I know has been truly locking down the kids.
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: DrCool on July 31, 2020, 06:25:20 PM
>>truly locking down the kids

For the first few weeks our kids were pretty much locked down. We would go for drives just to get them out of the house but other than that when everything was locked down we kept them at home. Even now we will take them to parks and take them hiking and the like but still haven't taken them into restaurants or stores or anything like that.

If you are used to dropping the kids off a daycare or school every day and now you have them home all day I can understand why that would make some parents crazy.
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: ergophobe on July 31, 2020, 07:21:44 PM
What is your definition of "truly locking down?"

I know some very locked down kids, but in situations where two families have decided their kids will play together, but with nobody else. But their kid does see others (like me) as long as it is outdoors and over six feet away. But of course, there are leaks everywhere. Both sets of parents have to get groceries (though actually, the parent I know has *not* gone in a grocery store since Covid - 100% delivery/pickup, no "self shopping" in the store).
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: rcjordan on July 31, 2020, 10:27:00 PM
260 sick at camp: CDC says children susceptible to COVID-19
https://myfox8.com/news/260-sick-at-camp-cdc-says-children-susceptible-to-covid-19/
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: ergophobe on July 31, 2020, 10:50:26 PM
Friend's son got sick at summer camp. Came home and infected the mom. He's 9 though. I had read that anyone over 5 was a risk. The new info is that the under-5 set is also at risk
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: littleman on July 31, 2020, 11:36:51 PM
My 20 y.o. left because we were too strict, she's been living with friends for about 2 months now.  The 15 y.o. has had two outdoor meetings with her best friends in family backyards, they stay outside, keep distance and keep their masks on if they are less than 10 ft. away from each other and do not get closer than 6 ft.  The 8 y.o. has had one supervised play date with her best friend also in a back yard and they stayed apart the whole time.

The schools here are not opening up until at least October when they will reassess, but if they were we would not be sending them back.
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: ergophobe on August 01, 2020, 12:04:28 AM
From today's email from the county

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Mariposa County COVID-19 Case Updates 7/31/2020

One (1) COVID-19 Positive cases reported today

#54- 1 year old Male. Recovered, late test results. Home Isolation. Person to person transmission. Contact Tracing complete.
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: gm66 on August 01, 2020, 12:07:22 AM
For once i'm glad i don't have kids, not so bad when there's just you and your Lady.

Under normal conditions i sometimes get pangs seeing Dads with Sons, and Daughters, but every potential Dad wants a Son in addition to a Daughter.

Now i'm glad that i have less to worry about, i can't imagine being responsible for another person during this time, hard enough during average times!

Power to all you parents, must be very hard right now.
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: littleman on August 01, 2020, 12:28:36 AM
>Power to all you parents, must be very hard right now.

Thanks, to be honest the generation above us has been harder to manage.
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: BoL on August 01, 2020, 04:57:08 AM
Schools in Scotland are re-opening in ~10 days with no restrictions at all for kids. Teachers will have to socially distance but kids will otherwise have a 'normal' school experience. Cases here are bottoming out so we'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: rcjordan on August 02, 2020, 12:06:27 PM
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CDC: This investigation adds to the body of evidence demonstrating that children of all ages are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 infection and, contrary to early reports, might play an important role in transmission

The CDC Just Released a Report on Kids Spreading COVID-19
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/the-cdc-just-released-a-report-on-kids-spreading-covid-19/ar-BB17rRXD
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Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: ergophobe on August 02, 2020, 05:12:59 PM
Friend's son got sick at summer camp. Came home and infected the mom. He's 9 though. I had read that anyone over 5 was a risk. The new info is that the under-5 set is also at risk

And now it's in the NYT
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/health/coronavirus-children-camp.html
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: DrCool on August 03, 2020, 03:45:56 PM
A school in Indiana opened and had to quarantine people the first day due to exposure:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/01/us/schools-reopening-indiana-coronavirus.html

I just can't see how schools will stay open once kids start heading back. I totally understand why a lot of parents will send their kids back, why the parents need the kids in school so they can work, etc. but I can't see how this doesn't end in disaster.

Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: rcjordan on September 11, 2020, 09:37:30 PM
Kids caught coronavirus at childcare, infected family, CDC report says
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/11/kids-caught-coronavirus-at-childcare-infected-family-cdc-report-says.html
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: rcjordan on September 28, 2020, 10:34:02 PM
CDC says coronavirus rates among teens nearly 'double' that of younger kids
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/28/cdc-says-coronavirus-rates-among-teens-nearly-double-that-of-younger-kids-.html
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: rcjordan on November 13, 2020, 03:11:54 PM
Largest COVID-19 contact tracing study to date finds children key to spread, evidence of superspreaders

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/09/30/largest-covid-19-contact-tracing-study-date-finds-children-key-spread-evidence
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: rcjordan on November 18, 2020, 06:28:11 PM
CDC removes guidance pushing for school reopenings amid COVID pandemic saying ’new scientific information has emerged’

https://www.masslive.com/coronavirus/2020/11/cdc-removes-guidance-pushing-for-school-reopenings-amid-covid-pandemic-saying-new-scientific-information-has-emerged.html


CDC is trying to get out from under Trump's thumb.
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: ergophobe on November 18, 2020, 07:11:24 PM
Meanwhile, the NYT newsletter yesterday was saying that in the US we are opening restaurants and closing schools and in Europe they are closing restaurants and opening schools. Guess which strategy is working better?

But we're Americans. We will defend our right to have fries with that to our dying day, but won't necessarily look out for the kids.
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: rcjordan on December 14, 2020, 08:36:06 PM
Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All - Spiegel
https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/new-on-the-covid-19-front-lines-children-may-be-driving-the-pandemic-after-all-a-95e4c0e7-2ea0-479b-ac27-d17f07d147a5
Title: Re: CV: The rugrat scenario
Post by: rcjordan on April 02, 2021, 03:58:02 PM
COVID-19 cases spike in Michigan, fueled by infections among kids

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-michigan-cases-spike-kids/