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EV Tires: They should have been reading here.
« on: September 16, 2024, 12:59:21 AM »
https://www.thedrive.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-owners-shocked-that-tires-are-barely-lasting-6000-miles

Tesla Cybertruck Owners Shocked That Tires Are Barely Lasting 6,000 Miles

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Re: EV Tires: They should have been reading here.
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2024, 08:15:24 AM »
>6,000 miles

We're down into the old bias ply territory here, but with tires that cost a heck of a lot more, just to haul around a whole lot of ugly.

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2024, 02:47:30 AM »
>old bias ply territory
>cost

In 1966-68 I had a deal to recap & mount my car's 15 inch tires for $5 each.  I think a new tire was $30 ready to roll. ($30 then = $290 now)

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Re: EV Tires: They should have been reading here.
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2024, 07:24:45 AM »
In the future, we are going to see a lot of articles about rubber tire particulate pollution from these EV's.

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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2024, 07:25:10 PM »
And I am suddenly seeing a lot of these. Pretty often in pairs. I haven’t figured that out yet.

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2024, 02:01:33 AM »
And now this pops up in my feed

Business owners using Cybertrucks to draw attention are disappointed by things like towing capability
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/cybertruck-nightmare-business-owners-regret-their-investment-in-electric-vehicles/ar-AA1qDrvF

When I see pairs of Cybertrucks, I figure this has to be some promotional thing, like a tour or employee recognition or something like that.

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Re: EV Tires: They should have been reading here.
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2024, 01:46:16 PM »
>towing capability

Load or Range. Pick ONE.

And don't forget; Companies Lie.

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2024, 04:01:23 PM »
We just towed a small, 1200-pound trailer up a 2000-foot hill (I mean vertical gain; that was over about 12 miles).

The thing you notice, whether gas of electric (since this is a PHEV i can observe both) is fuel efficiency takes a big hit.

Since this is the hill to our home, we drive it a lot. Generally, that hill eats about 17-18 miles of range unloaded (and because it’s not steep,’only charges about 3 miles of range in the way down; for charging, steeper is better since a lower percentage is lost to drag).

With a trailer it eats about 26-26 miles of range.

In think this is roughly the same whether gas or electric. The big difference is charging time and availability of chargers. Since we can charge at home but can’t refill the gas tank at home, we try to get home with the battery near 10% (the car doesn’t like to go below that).

OT: I finally sucked it up and installed a 50-amp, 240v circuit, ran 55’ of AWG 6 NM-B through the storage area, punched through the wall, switched to THWN wire (certified for underground), dug a trench, ran 30’ of conduit, pulled wire, painted and planted a 4” steel post, attached the charger* and fired it up. After a year of extension cords, one of the big things on my Honey Do List is done. Now we’re charging at 7.5kw (capacity of the car) rather than 1.1kw (capacity of the old circuit). The circuit and charger would go up to 9.6kw of the car were capable.

*Technically what I installled was EVSE - electric vehicle service equipment. The actual charger is in the car. Anyone with an EV by definition has a charger, what they might be lacking is EVSE to connect the charger already in the car to the grid.

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2024, 06:58:01 PM »
That's still on my to-do list.

>50-amp, 240v circuit, ran 55’ of AWG 6

I plan to do AWG 6 as well --#8 is spec'd.  But since the trench & conduit is 70% of the work in my case, I might bump it up to 4 just to future-proof it.  I'll put a marina-style shore power post beside the driveway to dress it up.

Don't forget to list your EVSE in your rental ads.

>thhn

Love the stuff.  Sooo much thinner than thw ...a big deal when doing conduit pulls.
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