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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2024, 10:38:00 AM »
>counter drone

The arms race.

https://www.defensemirror.com/feature/81/Battle_of_Counter_Drone_SAMs__Raytheon_s_Coyote_Vs__Russian_Pantsir_S1

Also, what is old is new again.  I got some of this information from either XTwitter or Mastodon and can't be bothered to find the article again.

Ukraine had 30,000 water cooled Maxim machine guns, inherited from the USSR, in deep storage when the war broke out.  They have been using them against low/slow drones by cobbling them together in duel and quad mounts on vehicles.  Being water cooled, the Maxim can make sustained fire longer than a more modern air cooled machine gun which is darn handy when shooting at drones.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/ukraine-maxim-machine-gun-russia/


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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2024, 11:36:17 PM »
https://afresearchlab.com/technology/thor

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WHAT IS IT?

Winner of the What’s New in Defense 2021 award, THOR is a counter-swarm electromagnetic weapon the Air Force Research Laboratory developed for defense of airbases. The system provides non-kinetic defeat of multiple targets. It operates from a wall plug and uses energy to disable drones.

THOR, a first of its kind system, stows completely in a 20 foot transport container, which can easily be transported in a C-130. The system can be set up within three hours and has a user interface that has been designed to require minimal user training. The overall cost to develop the technology was approximately $18 million dollars.

HOW DOES IT WORK?

The system uses high power microwaves to cause a counter electronic effect. A target is identified, the silent weapon discharges in a nanosecond and the impact is instantaneous.

WHY IS IT IMPORTANT?

Drones are becoming more pervasive every day. Rather than being used as innocuous hobby systems, drones can be employed as weapons intended to cause great harm at long standoff ranges. As they become more prolific and technically mature it is imperative that there be a safe way to protect airbases against these threats.

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2024, 12:08:17 PM »
Ukraine is now supposedly capable of using light airplanes as kamikaze drones...
... This is most probably an Aeroprakt A-22 Foxbat, a Ukrainian-produced light aircraft, equipped with an additional fuel tank and a remote control system.

https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1bts3oh/shahed_drone_factory_in_russias_tatarstan_over/

Shahed drone factory in Russia's Tatarstan over 1,200 kilometers away : ukraine

comment: "Even the damn suicide bombers have now been replaced by computers. No job is safe"

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2024, 04:14:55 AM »
What is happening in that video is amazing, they are using a drone to bomb a drone factory.

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2024, 10:42:26 AM »
It's spreading.

Myanmar's military-ruled capital attacked by drones

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68730993

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2024, 10:39:49 PM »
https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1cu8jen/last_night_ukraine_launched_over_a_hundred_drones/

Last night Ukraine launched over a hundred drones at oil facilities around Russia, this is the port of Novorossiysk

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https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/05/17/ukrainian-drone-attacks-on-russia-kill-2-set-oil-refinery-ablaze-a85144

Ukrainian Drone Attacks on Russia Kill 2, Set Oil Refinery Ablaze - The Moscow Times

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2024, 04:22:31 AM »
Has anyone been watching drone warfare videos coming out of Ukraine? The drone arms race is fascinating. Pilots are flying kamikaze drone bombs precisely into weak spots: tank engine covers, turret skirts, through enemy building windows, even flying into tank hatches. Russians started building metal sheds over their vehicles, which are now called "turtle tanks". It isn't stopping the drone pilots, who fly dozens of drones each day.
Russians then introduced signal jammers. Ukrainian drone manufacturers are working to introduce AI which will identify and guide the drone to it's target autonomously. AI drones will be equipped with local map files and will therefore not need GPS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WipqeFgzdTc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmv1frnURHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gWlb0N2jNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gha9oDJpjAU

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2024, 06:07:29 PM »
> turtle tanks

I did see one of those. It looked like they'd thrown an old chicken coop on the turret.

So 2 drones to take out a tank. 1st one blows off the chicken coop, 2nd one goes for the tank's weak spot.

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2024, 12:33:31 AM »
I've seen quite a bit of footage and Ukraine been gradually refining their techniques over the course of the war.  We may be a at the end of the age of the foot soldier.  I am not sure it will make sense to have people on the ground when drones could just pop up out of nowhere  or drop from the sky and kill people or even blow up tanks -- and this tech is still in it's infancy. 

Some day these things will be able to drop from the sky, hover down and wait for local movement while charging their batteries from a small solar cell -- all without any human at the controls.

In the mean time, you'd think Russia would do everything they could to get as many shotguns as possible out there.

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2024, 07:42:48 PM »
Not sure whether to post here or in Terminator Scenario...

Drone piloted autonomously be deep learning system overtakes world champion drone pilots
https://techxplore.com/news/2023-08-high-speed-ai-drone-world-champion-racers.html

I've mentioned before that one of my most hated sci-fi movie plot devices is the "switching to manual" device. The very next thing that will happen after switching to manual in 100% of those movies is that the hero dies.

As of this month, we are there.

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2024, 07:45:13 PM »
Actually, not there YET. I should say, there under ideal conditions, but the number of constraints on what is "ideal" will decrease rapidly I think

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2024, 12:03:24 PM »

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2024, 06:15:29 PM »
>European gun makers trial small arms as drone stoppers
>ie. shotguns

Future military training likely to include mandatory clay pigeon shooting course.

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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2024, 06:44:21 PM »
Bring back the best duck drone shotgun ever: Remington 1100 | 12 ga, 30" barrel, full choke, #6 shot.

Guaranteed to do the job, even high-flyers.

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Smooth as butter. Minimal recoil. Never jams.  You could shoot it with one hand if necessary.
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Re: Military Drones Changing the Game
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2024, 07:36:58 PM »
>#6 shot

How long until an ammunition manufacturer re-brands #6 to "drone shot"?