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hungrygoose

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Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« on: September 29, 2012, 11:30:24 AM »
This is a strange one...

I have plenty of EMDs they are VERY low quality, I'm talking 1 page of spun content and 4 pages of dupe content. All with the same theme too.. they are 99% ranking either the same or better today than yesterday. Ages of these are no more than 6 months

Now I have 1 site with a keywordkeyword.org.uk domain with 90 pages of unique helpful content, it's not even that keyworded... It's dropped 2000+ places over night. Age of the site is around 1.5years

Another site has around 9 pages of good content. Gone.

In one market I operate all the 2 page crap keywordhq.com etc sites are still ranking..


Side note. People have been saying EMDs are going to get hit for years and years, why has it taken so long for G to actually do something about the issue? IMO they're a big slow company and the best strategy at the moment is spam.
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2012, 01:27:38 PM »
I took a little beating on relevant domains.

My theory is, if there really is a filter, then it will only affect those sites which aren't deeply interlinked with the natural web.  If you get over this hump, then you should be fine; if you appear spammy, you get filtered.  
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hungrygoose

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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2012, 01:36:53 PM »
What do you mean by "deeply interlinked with the natural web"?
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2012, 08:18:35 PM »
I just mean the types of links a person might happen to get from just having a generally good, on target website... not the type of footprint a spammer might leave, who was carefully trying to craft all the same signals but drew up a little short.

Again, I'm just talking random theory, making up definitions, etc. but my deep down conviction is, if you get a good representation of links from sites that are 'white/white' ('never spam'/'never porn') filters such as this one would get overridden.

...no proof, just sayin.
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 05:57:58 PM »
IMHO the update is utter BS - how do you draw the line between an EMD and a proper brand? Not by using an algo for sure. From what I'm seeing, Viagra.com is nowhere to be found for buy Viagra again. Oh well...
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 06:09:33 PM »
Can you buy viagra from viagra.com?
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 10:15:16 PM »
When I type in viagra, I get Viagra.com in #2.
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 11:17:23 PM »
I think you are right about link patters DB.  Established EMDs seem to be doing fine.
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 09:05:01 AM »
Isn't it more like a "Domain Keyword algo"  than a "EMD algo"?
Exact Match to me says people will be hit for that exact term in the domain. The more I read the panic stricken responses at other places the more it seems that it's more than just their domain term that's being hit.
Unless Matt and his team have sneaked an update to panda/penguin at the same time (Still wanting for a response on that one https://twitter.com/Chunkford/status/252485506137481217 :p )
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2012, 09:06:37 AM »
I think youre right Chunkford.  Google don't appear to know what an EMD is... bit worrying that the head of Googles webspam team can be misinformed!
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2012, 11:07:35 AM »
I have the sneaking suspicion that this might be an attempt to use social signals more...

Q : How do you distinguish between an EMD and a brand?

A : Genuine brands will generate at least some social buzz, by definition. If they don't, they aren't real brands
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2012, 04:54:32 AM »
Well last year I bought a lot of EMD's put up some content for adsense and ranked pretty well. A few months ago adsense decided that my robot postings on wp sites violated their TOS so they booted me  out.  I could now give a rats arse about this update, but just out of curiosity's sake I took a peek  and most domains have gone poof in the ranking,whereas last week they were all page 1 material.  Some emd's had good content, others had stale content.
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2012, 07:47:17 AM »
Can anyone tell me their url anchor text percentage?? There is some correlation which Chunkford showed me earlier and I'm inclined to agree.
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2012, 08:36:48 AM »
Maybe co-incidence this but my findings show that my EMD's that had adsense on them historically (not necessarily now but anytime in the history of the sites going back years) got a slap - the others didn't. This fits in every single case.
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Re: Apparently EMDs got hit last night.. Personally I call BS..
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2012, 12:59:54 PM »
We had one EMD without Adsense and it got hit some time ago on the exact match search. Lots of aff links though, but through redirects.
Got a another one with the same template, same topic but didn't get a penalty. The first one is EMD, the 2nd isen't.
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