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Upgrade Electric Bike
« on: February 27, 2020, 09:07:47 PM »
Sort of related, I've been looking at the cost of electric bicycle hardware recently and the cost have come down significantly from last time I paid attention.  The battery packs and motors are less than half the cost of a few years back.  I'm looking to upgrade my 36v/10ah and 300w motor to 52v/20ah 1200w motor -- the entire conversion shoud set back about $750.

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Re: Upgrade Electric Bike
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2020, 10:34:48 PM »
I split this off to get more details, LM.

Is this a recumbent bike? 

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Re: Upgrade Electric Bike
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2020, 01:36:49 AM »
I bought a Rad Power bike in Fall 2019. Using it for city, meal and grocery trips. Really enjoying it.

>recumbent

For a high-end electric recumbent, try Outrider USA based in Asheville NC.
(Biltmore estate offers tours on Outriders)

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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2020, 02:07:45 AM »
>recumbent

I'm hoping it's not.  I'm more interested in the 2-wheel frame and how the motor mounts.  Those home-builts I've seen in the past were sorta just hung together.

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Re: Upgrade Electric Bike
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2020, 05:41:47 AM »
I had a three-wheeled recumbent, the low slung kind that you kinda sit in instead of sit on.  I enjoyed it a lot, but I only recommend it if you could ride in an area without cars.  Riding on a city street feels like tempting death.

The bike I am about to modify was made by Schwinn, its an electric chopper that was made without doing any proper market research.  Basically, they targeted kids, but there was not place in the US where they were legally allowed to ride them 10 years ago.  I was able to pick one up new for just $200 (though used ones are sold for a lot more now).  They also were originally sold with an under-powered SLA  24v system, which made them very slow.  Fortunately the underlying electronics and hub motor were capable of handling a36v 10ah LiPo4 battery pack.  That was good enough to make it a fun toy to take the kids zipping around a parking lot with, but I've been wanting to upgrade the motor to something over 1000w for a while.  With 1200w & 52v system the top speed will be about 27 - 30mph, I'll probably never take it that fast.

The bike attached is not my bike (that one is a slightly smaller frame), but it may look something like that when I put the new pieces on.

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Re: Upgrade Electric Bike
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2020, 03:49:43 PM »
>  recumbent...Riding on a city street feels like tempting death.

Agreed. There is a local fellow who has one and the only thing that's saving him (so far) is that little orange flag.  Besides, at 70, low-slung cars|bikes|chairs|beds becomes problematic.

So the motor is in that rear hub?


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Re: Upgrade Electric Bike
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2020, 06:36:47 PM »
Yeah. There are few different approaches to motor placement.  Front hub motor is the simplest, but also the setup that could take the least amount of power.  Rear hub is a simple setup that generally works better because of weight distribution and the frame is stronger than the front fork.  Some complete DIY setups use a mid-mounted motor pulling a separate chain, it's complicated but seems to work well.  The fancy and expensive setup these days is where the motor is built into the crank assembly.

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Re: Upgrade Electric Bike
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2020, 08:00:03 PM »
>little orange flag

LED whip lights are becoming popular for visibility, at least in the UTV market. Will probably reach the ebike market soon.

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2020, 09:16:22 PM »
Bwwwwaaaahahahaha!

Jeep's all-terrain e-bike is available to pre-order for $5,899

https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/01/jeep-e-bike-pre-order/

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Re: Upgrade Electric Bike
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2020, 09:27:04 PM »
750 watt motor for $5900? yikes. So many better options.

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Re: Upgrade Electric Bike
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2020, 09:29:22 PM »
>$5900? yikes

Yeah, that's $4k for the brand, or $1k/letter.