Quoteit is a highly debated subject amongst so-called whisky experts.

Ha!  I seem to remember the discussion

nah rupert - that was about where it gets its colour from - still a heated debate though

was it?  I think I must have been drinking some at the time!

I don't know what I was thinking before: JD is Tennessee Whiskey... not bourbon.  Bourbon isn't charcoal filtered and (usually) not from anywhere but Kentucky. Talk about getting everything wrong:)

Anyway, in an effort to educate myself, here is our list, as I see it:

Talisker
Sheep Dip
Dimple Pinch
Laphroaig
Highland park
Caol Isla
Arbeg
Springbank
Port Ellen
Lagavulin
Macallan
Dalwhinnie
Bowmore

Looks good to me - thats the first 30 minutes sorted out - what about the rest of the evening

Tried Talisker - very smoky and peaty.  Tried some MacAllan 12 year - smooth. I was instantly in love. So much so, that Costco had it for $10 a bottle cheaper than normal so I ran out an bought another bottle just to squirrel away.  This is fun.

I remembered that there were quite a few fans of Islay whisky on here and was just re-reading this thread again...

Was surprised that Bruichladdich didn't get a mention. Its another Islay, but very different from the other heavily peated ones. Started drinking it fairly recently after having passed it over in favour of the peaty Lagavulins and Ardbegs and just had to recommend it on here. A few places have got bottles of Bruichladdich going pretty cheap in the UK at the moment so now would be a good time to give it a go if you fancy it.

Laphroaig for Single Malts and Makers Mark for bourbon.

>>>>that was about where it gets its colour from - still a heated debate though

its only heated because you can't accept you was wrong  

nah - not possible - but I am glad you brought it up again

As you will recall, your argument had, as its core, an absolute - that ALL whiskey gets its colour from the barrel, and nowhere else.
For my argument to triumph, I just needed to prove that this absolute statement was wrong.

Not difficult, as I knew that at least one whisky, (Taliskser), got some of its colour from being blended down to cask strength using a less distilled version of itself that still has some colour from the malt and the peaty water. I couldn't possibly lose, as I had seen the process with my own eyes at the Talisker distillery.

I did try to explain all this to you at the time, but I didn't push it too hard as I suspected that you might possibly have been drinking and I didn't want provoke you

FWIW, I also now have the support of Wikipedia. comin' at yer from another angle (shame they weren't around at the time this bee first flew into your bonnet):

QuoteUnder the Scotch Whisky Regulations, a "Single Malt Scotch Whisky" must be made exclusively from malted barley (although the addition of E150A caramel colouring is allowed)

So, the truth of the matter would appear to be that whisky can get its colour from at least 3 areas - the original colour of the ingredients, the aging in the barrel, and the addition of caramel colouring.

Ffs not this again. Please :-)

aw come on, Rich - it's an antique argument now, it must be worth something, no ?

Lovejoy wouldn't give you fifty quid for it

>>it must be worth something, no

Go on then :-)

I love it when you twist words round into your favour, must be the mid stages of alzheimer seeing as your stuck in your bedroom for most of the day and don't have much communication with the real world  

so to jog your memory
under no circumstances have I ever said that all whiskey on this planet is the same and gets its colour from the cask,  but you said whiskey and to quote "whiskey does not get its colour from the cask" and that's where the difference of opinion arose whist sat in the bar at the last drop village, surely you would agree that this meeting did take place

I will also bring Caine in on this as he was your crutch you turned to in Shrewsbury and is indeed a Scotchman and if they don't know then who would eh, if your selective amnesia memory will take you back that far he was actually sat there rocking after drinking 12 pints of premium strength lager and was as much use to your argument as a chocolate fire guard and also said that whiskey does not get its colour from the cask when it turns out it actually does

wikipedia has been around long before the Shrewsbury meeting, maybe someone has now shown you how to use the worlds largest search engine to get the correct results seeing as you was sat in the bar area that night trying frantically to find a result in your favour

so moving forward
your now saying that 1 of the 3 ways that whiskey get its colour is from the cask, well that will do for me and I accept that even your good self can't be right all the time