Strange Penguin Results

Started by Chunkford, May 03, 2012, 04:47:09 PM

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Chunkford

http://www.seroundtable.com/penguin-traffic-drop-chart-15096.html

Hey Guys first post so take it easy with me :)

On seroundtable they posted what it looks like when penguin hits a site.
What's interesting though is this table



Why would Yahoo and Bing be effected with a Google algo update?
"If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions"

littleman

Hey Chuck, Welcome!  The changes in Bing/Yahoo are most likely not related to anything G is doing directly. 

Maybe there's an algo shift in Bing that isn't getting any attention?  Or, perhaps the competition is reacting to G and in turn messing with their rank in Bing?

Gurtie

coincidence or causality?

Yahoo and Bing - powered by the same search engine. You would expect their results to be roughly similar, although rarely exactly - the Yahoo/Bing for allergy Doctor New York is quirky but thats the only real discrepancy there.

Depending on the timescales this covers, and the normal stability of the results a +/- 5 difference really isn't anything to be raising eyebrows about. Crop the google results off that table and Yahoo/Bing would probably be a standard day. a bit of an ouch, but within normal bounce in most cases? Lots of potential causes; did Bing tweak their local algos? Did anyone tweak content?

I would say chances are a lot higher that a Bing algo tweak happens to have hit at the same time as penguin than anything else.  

I could speculate on a connection if I tried hard enough - perhaps the drop in Google traffic caused by penguin has been noted by MS because of the IE traffic and when they see a heavy drop of traffic to a site that gets reflected in a quality score? But I doubt it :)


and what LM said

Chunkford

Yea, I know there's too many variables involved, but that first one is very strange.

It's defiantly getting the conspiracy theories going in my head :D
"If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions"

littleman

>conspiracy theories

You'll fit right in here.

dogboy

Quote>conspiracy theories
You'll fit right in here.
LOL!

Welcome, Chunkford!

Gurtie

Quote from: Chunkford on May 03, 2012, 08:07:09 PM
Yea, I know there's too many variables involved, but that first one is very strange.

It's defiantly getting the conspiracy theories going in my head :D

love a conspiracy as much as the next person, but from my utterly not having looked at the site standpoint I still suspect a local update - the surgery isn't in both 07410 and 11223, I'm guessing?

Adam C

without reading the post in any detail, first thought that comes to mind is it could be something at the webmasters end.

Site changes
Lost links
Server outages
etc.


hungrygoose

That's obviously a very small sample of results.  Those keywords alone wouldn't give them 10k hits per day, they must have 100s of pages for each type of doctor + each zip code and borough.  so out of 100s of keywords why did they show that small sample... Will each result show a B decrease or just those?

Chunkford

Yea, old Barry White has realised this and says in his comments he should look for more examples or shouldn't have included the report.

Quote from: Gurtie on May 04, 2012, 07:57:03 AM
the surgery isn't in both 07410 and 11223, I'm guessing?

I think it's a directory of sorts
"If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions"

Rumbas

Interesting! and welcome to the show Chunkford :)