I know, via repeated admonishments, that I tend to be a little, ummm, brusque at times.  But, really, I'm getting tired of these wussies.

I'm curious, what are you talking about specifically? 

I'm having to carefully word every f###ing thing I say so they won't get their feelings hurt or take offense at something they are *sure* I must be implying.   It's like talking to 13 yr olds.

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30-40 age. out in the bricks. not here.

[cross-posted. wrote this before your response]

Yeah, this makes no sense to me. You're obviously in touch with your emotions - you just posted about them here. I try to be in touch with, but ideally somewhat in control of, my emotions. It's a fundamental for a rich life.

You're clearly thinking of some specific behavior of, perhaps, the offspring of helicopter parents?

Got it. Taking offense is a national sport.

Interesting. Back page of Time mag has an interesting interview on this with Judy Blume (the author known for getting her "young adult" novels banned lo these 40 years). She is asked about "trigger warnings" in class so *college* students can object if the professor is going to talk about an upsetting topic like... life. She is incredulous, basically saying: Isn't the whole point of college literature classes to confront young people with uncomfortable ideas? Apparently, the answer in 2015 is often "No."

>offspring of helicopter parents

No. But you've nailed it down better than by age bracket.  Except it's not the offspring, it's the Dad himself.

>trigger

Saw that a week or so back. WTF!  That's just an extension of helicoptering.

I'm a little older that demographic, have four kids (girls) -- two teens, a ten year old and a three year old.  There are way to many emotions pouring out all the time, its getting ridiculous.  Its getting to the point where I really look forward to the parts of the day where I get to interact with machines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg

I have to watch what I say and how I say it.  Inevitably I'm the knuckle dragger that brings in a triple beef burger with bacon into the Vegan society picnic.



Everyone, spent 20 years getting in touch with their inner child, now it's about time to get in touch with their inner adult.

To be honest, in my new work environment it's the older folks who are uptight, but that's a much different story. High end hotel and the older folks are still in a mode where they believe in "yes sir"/"no sir" and very formal language that, in my opinion, fewer and fewer guests want. I think it hampers our marketing, but it's literally on the level of correcting "Thanks Jack" to "Thank you" because it's perceived to be more formal. The result, in my opinion, is our marketing materials don't have a compelling voice, but... that's a whole different deal.

Formal is fine with me.  I understand formal.  Courtesy, manners and formality are the means by which total strangers who might not even like or understand each other can get things done, peacefully.

>they are *sure* I must be implying

They need to understand there is no need to read between the lines, if we want to say something we say it, simple.

>(girls) -- two teens

Ouch!

>knuckle-dragger

(#1) Yeah, me too. I was going to put "in touch with their feminine side" but figured Gurtie would think I'm chauvinistic   ....which I'm not.  Having raised 4 girls, I'm sorta pro-feminist. As long as they're female.   

>if we want to say something we say it, simple

(#2) THAT'S a major part of the problem.

OK, I *think* I can tie 1 & 2 together with a joke; His & Her Diary From the Same Day

http://i.imgur.com/6icZ3.png

Quote from: Brad on June 08, 2015, 11:26:11 PM
Formal is fine with me.  I understand formal.

It's fine and above all it is safe. But several major studies by the hotel industry in the last couple years have shown that it's no longer what people want, at least in the US. Essentially, the people who were looking for that kind of experience are getting too old to travel and the Boomers, Gen-X and Gen-Y are looking for unique, "authentic" and are made uneasy by that stiff formality.

The hotels are realizing that while formal scales, personal does not and there is great fear in the industry. AirBnB and VRBO aren't taking business because they are cheaper, but because the offer the experience the new generation is looking for. The huge change in the last couple of years is that hotels are increasingly losing business travelers to VRBO.

Anyway, that's a diversion from RC's issue, but it is a generational gap of some interest.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/business/young-travelers-drive-changes-in-hotel-industry.html?_r=0
http://adage.com/article/digitalnext/hotels-challenge-airbnb-millennials-hearts/297893/

>> stiff formality

This is a really snobbish comment, but I always feel like places and people who are stiffly formal are jusst trying to appear better than they really are.  I get the same feeling in/around them as I do when people having an allegedly private conversation are speaking too loudly aboout something 'amazing' to try and impress you. (Nearly) all the really good places do casual dress and treat you like friends (ok I know that comes off their database but the TOV is still the same). There is a level though. Perhaps your guys need to go on a field trip?!

>> chauvinistic   

Debbie would tell you off

>> in touch

Isn't this more about appropriateness? If you're in touch with your own feelings its polite to be in touch with others feelings too. If you're  hugger and the person you're with isn't, then don't. If you're a sharer and the person you're with isn't - then rein it back a bit. If you know the person you're with is straight talking, snap yourself out of being oversensitive around them

But obviously the flip side of that RC, if you know the person ou're speaking to is liable to take everything to heart, perhaps dpn't use the full on Florida Man approach?

Hahaha, why am I not surprised that some of the.. errrm.. Emo Adults can't take your blunt approach RC.

I'm kind of with you though. In household with 3 girls as well (2, 8 and 11) and their friends coming over, I usually get flack for making their touchy-feely frineds cry. I might be kind of tough on them, but having 4 screaming 11 year olds roam the house does it for me and I tell them so and they break. Feeling it's unfair.. Geez. Some of these kids have never met any adult that tell them NO and they are used to having things their way.
Well, not in my house.. they can basically do what-ever as long as they respect everyone else in house and KEEP IT DOWN and clean up after them.