> serious, debilitating cases get to 1 in 20-ish.   Otherwise, denial reigns.

Florida coronavirus spread has hit 1 in 25 residents as US passes 10 million cases - Orlando Sentinel

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-florida-coronavirus-monday-november-9-20201109-yo2pvmx2gbd3jpgxxgbikublge-story.html

>Utah
Mask mandate from Utah governor draws pushback, protests - Deseret News
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/11/9/21557460/utah-mask-mandate-protest-governor-gary-herbert-coronavirus-covid19-salt-lake-county

People have to know someone who gets hit.

Which is not true with, say, terrorism. People have deep fears about terrorism and we have put up with all manner of privacy invasion, inconvenience, expense and security theater. I think it's been worth it though. Every day, I say thanks for all the people close to me whose lives have been saved by making us take our shoes off at the airport and confiscating my nail clippers. If only mask wearing were as effective as that, I think we could all get behind it.

Like you said in a some time ago in a different thread, it isn't how many people die but about how they die.

That's my wife's stock response when I start getting on the above rant. "People focus on interesting ways to die" I think is her usual phrasing... though that's still not quite right

https://www.dumbwaystodie.com/song

Mayo Clinic Health System says area hospitals are 100% full
https://wqow.com/2020/11/10/mayo-clinic-health-system-says-area-hospitals-are-100-full/

Virus surge: Schools abandon classes, states retreat
https://apnews.com/article/schools-abandon-classes-virus-surge-36e842656de5f5193f3d55e37ffc8351

Gov. Tate Reeves: Mississippi would not participate in national lockdown if issued
https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2020/11/12/national-lockdown-coronavirus-not-in-ms-gov-reeves/6269903002/

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"Almost all of the 16 Republican governors who oppose statewide mask mandates are ready to reject Biden's plea, they told POLITICO or declared in public statements"

Red state governors reject Biden on mask orders - POLITICO
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/13/republican-governors-reject-biden-mask-orders-436385

U.S. COVID-19 case rate per 100k by state | Statista
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/

Yeah! My state sucks less that 2/3^rds of the country.

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Oregon, New Mexico order lockdowns as other states resist
https://www.thestate.com/news/article247173914.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-incoming-house-member-says-masks-are-oppressive-covid-19-surge/
marjorie taylor green - people voted her into congress

Deeeep red ND issues mask mandate.

North Dakota issues statewide mask mandate to stem spread of COVID-19
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/525968-north-dakota-issues-statewide-mask-mandate-to-stem-spread-of-covid-19

I was told it was a blue state disease.

But yeah... saw that on the chart you posted the other day. North Dakota is bad.

Interestingly, the state that was best on that chart was Vermont, the state that
a) voted most heavily against Trump
b) has a Republican governor who took it seriously from day 1

I know a lot of Democrats and Trump-haters from Vermont who have really admired the way Phil Scott handled Covid

I love Vermont politics. Always some of the most interesting in the country. And the gubernatorial race in the age of Covid was no exception....

Phil Scott announced on May 28, 2020, that he would seek a third term as governor, but in light of Covid, he would not campaign, maintain a campaign staff or fundraise. In a contested primary, he took 73% of the Republican vote (no surprise for an incumbent), but Scott also won 5% of the vote in the Progressive Party primary as write-ins.. For folks following along at home, that was the party that Bernie Sanders essentially created in his mayoral run that first put him in public office. So 5% of the Sanderistas voted for a Republican incumbent who as not even on the ballot in their primary, but who had one of the most aggressive Covid responses in the country. In fact, I would say *the* most aggressive response in the country relative to infection rates. The response in New York was more aggressive, but that had a crisis on their hands.

What did this aggressive response to Covid do for the Republican governor in the general election? In a state that went 66% Democrat for president, the Republican governor took 69% of the vote without even campaigning.

And that's not baseline popularity. When he ran for reelection in 2018, without Covid, he not only did worse in the general election (55%), he actually did worse in the Republican primary (67%). So even among the party faithful, he *gained* ground.

Of course, it's too late to change 2020, but I think he shows what could have happened in the US.

Surging virus cases get a shrug in many Midwestern towns
https://www.kfyrtv.com/2020/11/14/surging-virus-cases-get-a-shrug-in-many-midwestern-towns/

>Vermont

I always wanted to visit there and the NE in general.  The general impression I get is that they are largely independent and resourceful.

^{I didn't think North Dakota HAD 2200 people.}

2,278 cases of COVID-19 reported in North Dakota, new single-day high
https://www.valleynewslive.com/2020/11/14/2278-cases-of-covid-19-reported-in-north-dakota-new-single-day-high/