California is ready to drag the rest of the US into the EV age

Started by littleman, August 25, 2022, 02:27:04 AM

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littleman

https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/24/23320148/california-gas-car-ban-2035-ev-climate-change

QuoteThe rule would phase in over time, with 35 percent of new passenger vehicles sold by 2026 and 68 percent by 2030. California says that over 16 percent of new car sales were "zero-emission vehicles" in 2022 — up from 12.41 percent last year and 7.78 percent in 2020.

rcjordan

Has the gov signed it yet?

Calif is the tail that wags the dog.

rcjordan


ergophobe

How exactly is this a hardship for people from MO? When they buy goods made in CA, they cost more?

Or is it just political signaling to say, "I don't believe that climate change is a major problem and I hate California and Gavin Newsom?"

I don't understand the argument here.

rcjordan

>How exactly is this a hardship for people from MO?
>Calif is the tail that wags the dog.

I'm thinking he knows that auto manufacturers will -rightfully so- focus on producing vehicles that meet Calif requirements and other states will have limited choices even if they want or need gas-burners.

ergophobe


rcjordan

So this goes into effect without going through the legislature & governor?

"America's most populous state has passed a resolution that will ban the sales of new gasoline-powered cars by 2035.
As CNBC reports, the resolution was issued by the California Air Resources Board yesterday

Do car manufacturers have until 2035 to start making changes? No. The 2035 resolution actually begins in 2026 for car manufacturers and phases out gas-powered cars over a 10-year period. The resolution says that 35% of car sales must be of battery or hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2026. The percentage raises to 68% by 2030. The full ban on gas-powered vehicles begins in 2035.

Will California's decision impact other states? Most likely. California often leads the way when it comes to automotive rules. As CNBC notes, California was the first state to institute tailpipe emissions standards all the way back in 1966. And usually, eventually, as goes California, so goes the nation."

California's new gas car sales ban: what it means for drivers and carmakers
https://www.fastcompany.com/90782662/californias-new-gas-car-sales-ban-what-it-means-for-drivers-and-carmakers


ergophobe

>> California remains ahead

Also worth checking out
Negative Power Prices? Blame the US Grid for Stranding Renewable Energy
Bottlenecks are preventing cheap wind and solar energy from reaching high-demand areas.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-30/trapped-renewable-energy-sends-us-power-prices-below-zero

QuoteThe US needs to spend $360 billion through 2030 and $2.4 trillion by 2050 to expand transmission systems enough to handle the expected onslaught of renewables, according to a Princeton study. Otherwise, power will keep getting stuck where no one needs it.

The thread on the hydrogen train in Germany, though, makes me wonder whether instead of transmission systems, you would use the periods of excess production to electrolyze hydrogen from water and then sell that.