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Started by rcjordan, November 23, 2021, 03:28:54 PM

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rcjordan

Some EVs can lose up to 35% of their range in freezing conditions, but each model performs differently, as our chart illustrates.

Study: Winter & Cold Weather EV Range Loss in 7,000 Cars

https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/winter-ev-range-loss

rcjordan

EV-speak;

    Vehicle-to-grid or V2G - EV exports energy to support the electricity grid.

    Vehicle-to-home or V2H - EV energy is used to power a home or business.

    Vehicle-to-load or V2L * - EV can be used to power appliances or charge other EVs

    * V2L does not require a bidirectional charger to operate

ergophobe

This is my big hangup with the Ioniq 5 (aside from price). It has V2L but no V2H

https://www.cleanenergyreviews.info/blog/bidirectional-ev-charging-v2g-v2h-v2l
https://www.cars.com/articles/whats-bidirectional-charging-and-which-evs-offer-it-457608/
https://www.greenbiz.com/article/bidirectional-charging-becoming-more-accessible

Apparently only
- F150 Lightning
- Nissan Leaf

Offer bidirectional charging (V2G or V2H). VW has announced it will be available next year on all vehicles with the 77kwh battery. Sono has yet to deliver a car, but they are promising it too

rcjordan

>It has V2L but no V2H

Debbie said that ev tech in general is close enough to some significant upgrades and I should postpone buying the Bolt. V2H is one of them, good level 3 driving, solid state batteries and/or better electrolytes is another, and -hopefully/UNlikely- a consumer backlash against subscriptions.

Louise isn't happy, but I told her to feel free to work the deal and write a check.


ergophobe

#80
https://www.dnv.com/to2030/technology/are-solid-state-batteries-the-holy-grail-for-2030.html

https://www.nasa.gov/aeroresearch/nasa-solid-state-battery-research-exceeds-initial-goals-draws-interest

Allowing for a vaporware component to most prognostications about EVs and SDVs, my gut tells the solid state battery will be the aftermarket replacement battery for the car I buy in 2025 and not the stock battery.

In any case, my daily driver will be old enough to drink in all 50 states by 2025 and I can't wait forever.

If the Ioniq had V2H, Theresa was ready to buy one in MN (no $5000 dealer charge) and drive it home. We were able to get in the back and confirm sleeping comfort.

ergophobe

Real-world towing numbers with an ID.4 and two small campers (1800 pounds and 800 pounds)
https://www.rvtravel.com/rv-electricity-vw-id4-towing-first-review-vt-1015/

Brad

>Real-world towing

He makes a good point about drive through recharging points for EV's towing trailers.

rcjordan


rcjordan

>subscriptions

Volvo Promises to Skip the Worst Trend in Automobiles – Review Geek

https://www.reviewgeek.com/140411/volvo-promises-to-skip-the-worst-trend-in-automobiles/

rcjordan

#85
"Although it wasn't wired to the home's panel, the owner ran two extension cords with a splitter to power the refrigerators, freezers, Wi-Fi, select lights, and TV for nearly two full days. And the best part, when the power was restored, the Lightning still had 65% of its battery left."

Ford Lightning owner powers home essentials for 2 days

https://electrek.co/2022/12/28/ford-lightning-owner-powers-home-essentials-for-2-days/

+ pix of Pro Power

What is the F-150 Lightning Pro Power Onboard?

https://www.ford.ca/support/how-tos/more-vehicle-topics/f-series-features/what-is-the-f-150-lightning-pro-power-onboard/

ergophobe

Pros and Cons of Electric Cars
https://www.theonion.com/pros-and-cons-of-electric-cars-1819594206

Linked from Electric Cars are Bringing out the Worst in Us
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/electric-vehicles-suv-battery-climate-safety/672576/

Tidbits
They are heavy
QuoteThe forthcoming electric Chevrolet Silverado EV, for example, will weigh about 8,000 pounds, 3,000 more than the current gas-powered version

QuoteAccording to the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy, the 9,063-pound GMC Hummer EV contributes more emissions per mile than a gas-powered Chevrolet Malibu... That Hummer EV's battery weighs as much as a Honda Civic,

The government likes them that way
QuoteThe Inflation Reduction Act that Biden signed in August includes a tax credit of up to $7,500 for those buying an electric car with a price tag below $55,000; in an implicit incentive to buy a larger vehicle, eligible SUVs can cost as much as $88,000 and still qualify. The new law offers nothing for buyers of e-bikes, e-cargo bikes, or electric golf carts—all of which produce a fraction of the emissions of an electric car while posing much less danger to road users.

They are dangerous
QuoteAt the risk of stating the obvious, such blistering acceleration serves no practical purpose on a public road, where it can jeopardize everyone's safety. In Europe, an auto insurer recently linked EVs' quick pickup speeds to an uptick in crashes. Once again, the most vulnerable street users bear particular risk: A 2018 study by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety found that hybrid vehicles, which, like EVs, can accelerate more quickly than gas-powered cars, were 10 percent more likely to injure a pedestrian than their gas-powered equivalents.

ergophobe

California budget cuts target funds for charging stations

QuoteThe cuts would also affect the construction of chargers and other infrastructure for heavy-duty trucks, a much-needed investment as the state considers another ambitious proposal to ban sales of high-polluting diesel trucks
https://calmatters.org/environment/2023/01/california-climate-budget/

Ah for the long gone days of December 14, 2022:
Charging Ahead: California Doubling the Number of EV Chargers in the State With $3 Billion Investment
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/12/14/charging-ahead-california-doubling-the-number-of-ev-chargers-in-the-state-with-3-billion-investment/

rcjordan


rcjordan

The Biden Administration has released rules mandating that, to receive federal funding, EV chargers must be American-made and useable by all electric vehicles.


New Electric Vehicle Charging Standards Force Tesla to Change Its Ways

https://gizmodo.com/tesla-ev-elon-musk-electric-vehicle-chargers-biden-1850117119

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