OpenAI declares ‘code red’ as Google catches up in AI race

Started by rcjordan, December 03, 2025, 02:16:45 AM

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ergophobe

> phantom facts from Open AI

I was going to mention this in another thread. According to someone I was listening to (I can't remember who, but someone who makes a job of studying these things) ChatGPT 5 is a router and if you are on a free or cheap plan you get routed to cheaper models for many prompts or part of the response to the prompt and you don't get the "thinking" phase. Typically, if you're getting a full bio of your made-up Civil War hero ancestor, that's not coming from one of the latest models, even if you are on 5.

rcjordan

> if you're getting a full bio of your made-up Civil War hero ancestor, that's not coming from one of the latest models

I suspect that was G-serp Gemini before the lst upgrade.   Nope, it was Deepseek.

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littleman


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ergophobe

What are the chances that having really good AI accelerates the arrival of quantum computing?

Microsoft is in a race with Google and some others on the quantum computing front. So what are the chances that the entity that wins the AI race also wins the quantum computing race?

rcjordan

ummm, FF on W11 updated. W11 updated (soon-ish after FF, IIRC).

I use the context menu heavily for nav and launching scripts & apps.  Yesterday, as I was hovering over an outbound link in an article, FF asked if I wanted an AI preview "All Done Locally."  I ok'd it and it downloaded an LLM and FF proceeded to show a pretty detailed pop-up of the link's landing page.  Gotta admit it was a nice feature.

Apparently, the onboard LLM is Gemini.  On some pages or sometimes just snippets of plain text Gemini asks if it should do some relevant whatever.  On full pages you can activate a left-hand column for Gemini.  Again, this can be plenty useful.

This how G's reach is going to dominate the others.  ...and this is FF. Imagine what'll happen on Chrome.

rcjordan

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> I use the context menu heavily for nav and launching scripts & apps.

I forgot to mention that AI is now available from the context menu, too.  G's covered the bases.

Rupert

Is that part of the paid service for you or the freebie available to everyone?
... Make sure you live before you die.

rcjordan

>paid

No, I think it is being rolled out to everyone.  I did not install any new apps or extensions --just updates.

>updates

I did happen to look at the "What's New" features of last week's Win11 update ...something I rarely do but thought it would be AI-heavy. It was, but Copilot on Edge, mostly. I closed Edge immediately after the update opened it and did not activate any of the features.

Debbie says G & FF must have coordinated this.

rcjordan


rcjordan

re my FF AI added features

Maybe I'm early release?

Mozilla announces an AI 'window' for Firefox | The Verge
https://www.theverge.com/news/820196/mozilla-firefox-ai-window-browser

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I rec'd an email from G yesterday  (note that I'm 100% on FF and did not enter my email address when I checked out the first AI link from the context menu to preview a click-through. AND it used my email address form my personal domain --not my gmail address).

Subj: You're now using Gemini on web
Get the most out of Gemini on web
Welcome to Gemini, an AI assistant from Google that can help you supercharge your creativity and productivity. With the Gemini web app, you can get help writing, creating, learning, and more at gemini.google.com. Learn more about what you can do with Gemini on the web.
How Gemini handles data and works with other services
Gemini activity and your choices
Your chats, what you share with Gemini (like files, videos, screens, and photos),
audio, transcripts, and recordings of your Gemini Live interactions, your feedback,
info from websites you visit with Gemini, product usage, and location info are
saved in Gemini Apps Activity (if your Keep Activity setting is on). This data is
reviewed by trained service providers and used to improve Google services
(including Gemini models and other generative AI models). It's also used to
personalize your experience, depending on your settings and region. When
Google uses your activity to improve its services, it gets help from human reviewers.
To protect your privacy, chats are disconnected from your account before being
sent to service providers for review. You can turn off Keep Activity anytime.
Be sure not to include info you wouldn't want reviewed or used.
Gemini works with other services
Gemini can respond with real-time info from other tools, apps, and services like Google Maps and YouTube. You can also choose to connect services like Google Workspace and YouTube Music. If Gemini finds a connected app that can help, it will send information from your conversation and other relevant information to that connected app to help it generate a better response. You can manage your apps in your settings. Learn more.

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