Entire staff walked out, Hilton Suites, Boynton Beach FL

Started by rcjordan, March 24, 2022, 01:43:18 PM

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Rumbas


rcjordan

>why

overworked and understaffed, would be Debbie's guess.  That said, there is a robust, growing group of people opting out of work.  Check out reddit's antiwork, for instance.

https://old.reddit.com/r/antiwork/

ergophobe

Because they were able to organize.

The reason it doesn't happen every day all across America is because organizing something like this is very hard.

rcjordan


ergophobe

Does Debbie say we're seeing the beginnings of a new labor movement, or will all the gains be scratched back when the economy tightens?

rcjordan

Debbie says we're already in several nascent labor movements.

She also thinks the robots are going to win.

ergophobe

I'm skeptical that labor will organize as we have thought of it in the past.

I see much of the future action as more Bartleby than Wobbly.

rcjordan

>labor will organize as we have thought of it in the past.

The 'old-style' unions are what we'll see first, because they are off-the-shelf ready and have the most legal protection.  But, like you, I don't think that is what we'll end up with.

I'm biased by the young'uns on reddit, but there seems to be a potent mix of Bernie Sanders, Medicare-for-all, and Universal Income swirling about. 

ergophobe

I think that young people are being derided by old people as lazy, snowflakes, entitled, and so on. And yet, what are the three biggest items in the federal budget in order: Social Security, Medicare, military. The first two are for old people and the last one is mostly a result of wars that most of them didn't start and didn't want.

I think they are just going to start telling all the old people that they are tired of paying for their sh## and start opting out of the economy more and more. It doesn't even have to be a big movement to reach a tipping point where the old-person edifice starts to crumble. I'm sort of hoping that I get to collect Social Security for a while before it does because, at root, I aspire to be an entitled old person. I'm just glad people like LM are adding four bodies to the workforce that will allow this life of elderly leisure I envision.

rcjordan

Starbucks = coalmine canary.

How the Starbucks Worker Organizing Model Can Accelerate Unionization Across the Country
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2022/03/sb-workers-united-labor-organizing-corporate-chains

Rumbas

>watch this

Nice and makes a good point. Got that tube in my head now. Thanks.

rcjordan

>in my head

You're welcome.   "Another day older and deeper in debt" is our national motto now.

Ernie Ford released '16 Tons' in 1955 when I was 5yo.  It was STILL being routinely played on national broadcast media when I was 12-13yo.  As earworms go, it was a big one for my generation. (Louise still knows every verse.)


DrCool

>in my head

My kids regularly yell at Alexa to play this version of that song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzlT80jQ3lo . And of course whenever they do it is stuck in my head for the rest of the day.

rcjordan

#14
Here ya go, Rumbas...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnHprUGKF0  (1961)

Debbie thinks these coal miner songs helped spark unionization efforts and maybe the Kennedy's interest in Appalachian poverty in the late 60s.

>this version

That's pretty good.