Find out if the UK used NSA data to spy on you

Started by bill, February 17, 2015, 01:51:01 AM

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Adam C

I can't help but think that the privacy concerned user who would be motivated to find out if they'd been spied on would be adverse to putting their name and address on a Privacy International list to be brought before the courts

ergophobe

QuoteI can't help but think that the privacy concerned user who would be motivated to find out if they'd been spied on would be adverse to putting their name and address on a Privacy International list to be brought before the courts

Au contraire...   I'm not terribly private, but I am concerned with surveillance and the loss of basic civil liberties in America. I'm literally a card carrying member of the ACLU (as Bush once said of Michael Dukakis which was actually before the ACLU started issuing cards) and believe that the basic civil liberties, as ensconced in the Bill of Rights amendments to the US Constitution are the foundation of a free society and that the NSA programs violate our protections against unreasonable search.

So actually, if we had a similar ruling with similar effects here, I would demand to have my information expunged and it wouldn't bother me one bit (in fact it would please me) if that demand were published in the New York Times. In fact, I would be willing to have all of the data the NSA may have gathered published in the New York Times if I wasn't barred from doing so. It would be worth it for me to lose that much privacy personally if it alerted other citizens the threat these programs pose and motivate them to pass laws so that the next time there's a major terror attack we don't find ourselves suspending habeus corpus, torturing people innocent and guilty, running surveillance on all manner of people who are not under suspicion of anything and all the other things we have seen in the wake of Sept 11, 2001. The sad truth is that when I look at the effects of that attack on our democracy, I can't help but think that the terrorist actually won that round.

Mackin USA

What Adam C said

OR

To put it another way NO Fing Way >:(
Mr. Mackin

bill

Apparently you don't have to be from the UK to submit your address to that form. I'll have to admit my tin-foil hat collection is getting in the way of the Submit button for me though.