New proof that Google divisions do not collaborate

[ergophobe]

Sorry... for the clickbait title... but for your amusement, Pagespeed Insights flagged a site I'm working on for not compressing images.... and these are the images

[Rumbas]

Oh, the joy. Two-tongued bastards ;-)

[Rooftop]

It's no secret that they don't collaborate, and it is largely by design.  They're  "bottom-up" company where teams are run almost like small businesses.  We've had examples where we have helped introduce two teams who have been working against one another without even knowing of each others existence.   Looks ridiculous from the outside, but it seems to work for them

[gm66]

It's no secret that they don't collaborate, and it is largely by design.  They're  "bottom-up" company where teams are run almost like small businesses.  We've had examples where we have helped introduce two teams who have been working against one another without even knowing of each others existence.   Looks ridiculous from the outside, but it seems to work for them

I guess they're spreading their bets ?

[ergophobe]

It's no secret that they don't collaborate

I was addressing that, tongue in cheek, to the assertion you hear from time to time that the search team is beholden to the AdWords and AdSense teams.

[aaron]

That Google spends so much time promoting all these sort of side endeavor optimization (which likely have no value & negative value to many smaller businesses who struggle with the rising technological implementation costs) while not applying them to their own operations would indicate an ulterior motive.

The whole speed thing is IMHO simply a justification for further landgrab of copyright content to keep the users within closed silos which are rarely exited unless through a paid door.

The faster they destroy & defund traditional media monetization the quicker they can get the media hooked onto some kickback innovation funds and a "rescue" solution where Google hosts their content, tracks their users, monetizes the audience & then gives them back just enough to keep being able to afford bread (most of the time, while allowing a few to starve to send a message).

The whole web becomes YouTube, where Google makes whatever they see fit & everyone else gets just enough to not give up.

A few years back the Google remote quality raters specifically mentioned rating images lower if they had a watermark on them. And since that time Google has moved to keep the user on their site, even though someone else had to foot the bill to take the picture. YouTube is also an easy channel to send traffic into, but much harder to get traffic out of.

"[My AdSense revenues dropped from] USD 10,000/month to USD 150/month! Fortunately my real world business does not depend on advertising revenue. Easily my biggest reduction was when Google grabbed everyone's images, more than a 90+% reduction in PVs." - RedBar on https://www.webmasterworld.com/google_adsense/4784452-6-70.htm

I think these are interesting contrasts...

http://xooglers.blogspot.com/2011/04/once-and-future-king.html "He wondered how Google could become like a better version of the RIAA - not just a mediator of digital music licensing - but a marketplace for fair distribution of all forms of digitized content. I left that meeting with a sense that Larry was thinking far more deeply about the future than I was, and I was convinced he would play a large role in shaping it." Doug Edwards on Larry Page

http://recode.net/2016/04/11/youtube-google-dmca-riaa-cary-sherman/ "Just look at Silicon Valley. They’ve done an extraordinary job, and their market cap is worth gazillions of dollars. Look at the creative industries — not just the music industry, but all of them. All of them have suffered." RIAA's Cary Sherman on Google/YouTube & Facebook

The more you look like just another part of the feed the easier you are to replace by internal scrape-n-displace knowledge graph or vertical search offerings & the more likely you are to take a short term deal even if it ultimately guarantees the death of the company.

Hard to have a sustainable competitive advantage if you have significant employee costs yet almost all the infrastructure is outsourced.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/matthewzeitlin/the-digital-media-bloodbath-hundreds-of-jobs-lost “The cracks are beginning to show, the dependence on platforms has meant they are losing their core identity,” said Rafat Ali “If you are just a brand in the feed, as opposed to a brand that users come to, that will catch up to you sometime.”

The scary thing is what happens as the feed and apps keep displacing more of the physical world

http://adage.com/article/digital/facebook-s-zuckerberg-outlines-shift-messenger-bots-vr/303510/ "A lot of the things we think about as physical objects today, like a TV, will actually just be a $1 app in an app store." - Mark Zuckerberg

..luckily there is no need to fear the impacts of AI & the vertical monopoly, closed-silo driven web...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/27/insider/try-to-interview-googles-chief-executive-its-emasculating.html "During a 2014 interview with Charlie Rose, [Larry Page] said he wished there were a vehicle for people to donate money to their company so that it could be used for projects that had some kind of social purpose."

[Rupert]

Aaron - wow.  And I thought I had a down on the future