Brexit

[Chunkford]

The UK is in the EU with opt-outs.
But the UK wants out of the EU with opt-ins.

Anyone else scratches their head when they try and work that out?

[keano]

Brexit is just too wide ranging a subject to have been broached in a simple yes/no referendum (which is technically not legally binding btw). Speak to 10 different people and they will likely give you 10 different reasons why they voted the way they did. It was ridiculous for the referendum to be presented in such a binary and finite way.

Add to the fact that that there seemed to be some dubious claims from the leave camp whilst campaigning which they seemingly won't be held accountable for in any meaningful way and you end up with a subject that nobody fully understands with no clear path forward.

[Adam C]

The UK is in the EU with opt-outs.
But the UK wants out of the EU with opt-ins.

That's the single best argument I've heard to date for Brexit

[Rupert]

I have quoted that line a couple of times too Chuckford

[ergophobe]

The UK is in the EU with opt-outs.
But the UK wants out of the EU with opt-ins.

So basically the UK wants to grow up to be Switzerland?

[rcjordan]

NOW you've done it! Cleese is leaving the UK.

http://www.newser.com/story/261814/why-john-cleese-is-leaving-the-uk.html

[gm66]

The working class people of the UK voted to exit, now the middle classes are paying to reverse the decision, democracy in action!

[rcjordan]

From the flurry of headlines I've seen over the last couple of weeks, it's still shaping up to be a very costly exit with a big dose of PITA over the long term.

[rcjordan]

From here, it looks like May is getting her ass handed to her.

[rcjordan]

What a clusterfuck.

UK government steps up no-deal Brexit planning
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/12/uk-government-steps-deal-brexit-planning-181218142414510.html

[Rupert]

It will go to the wire and the more imho.

Also just So many lies about.

Vince Cable said the other day:

that half British sheep population would be slaughtered if there was no deal.

Just not true.  Half of lambs are slaughtered every year, because a lamb becomes mutton when it is 2. So technically yes. But not because of a no deal.
Half of lambs grown are eaten in the UK, the rest are exported.  A small number got to the EU.  Most dont. Some to New Zealand(We import lamb back too strangely)

and as for Farrage/ Johnson/gove

I think they should be locked up, the lot of them. 

[jetboy]

The "no deal" option is May playing chicken with Parliament. i.e. Unless they vote for her deal, that will be the only other option. It's clearly a lie, and hugely irresponsible. It may also be a tactic that works.

[Adam C]

Dark times ahead.  The country is massively divided.  There needs to be a long term constructive plan in the interest of the majority, but there seems to be little attempt to drive towards this by the extremists.

[Chunkford]

Majority? it was practically a 50/50 split. The referendum should have had a threshold, to define a clear majority.

[Adam C]

It was 50/50 on the blunt in/out question, but that has proven to have been too simple a question to provide a mandate for anyone to successfully action anything.

Time to construct a more meaningful framework for deciding WTF happens next.