Monthly car payments have crossed a record $700. What that means

Started by rcjordan, July 04, 2022, 03:00:40 PM

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rcjordan


ergophobe

In both housing and cars, a fair bit of this is "code creep." But a lot is also just demand for luxury. When the guy says "every car today is a luxury car" he seems to mean the price, but even a simple car today is luxurious compared to a car from 40 years ago.

Rupert

Quote$5 a gallon recently and are still hovering near these record levels.

We are now double that in the UK....
... Make sure you live before you die.

littleman

This is a bomb waiting to go off.  Apparently half of all cat loans are under water.  The used car market has had cost rise double the rate of inflation.

rcjordan


ergophobe

The Subaru Crosstrek is probably the closest thing in the current lineup to the Forester we have. Arguably, it might be the Impreza - the Forester was their bottom-end car at the time and is now more mid-range and much bigger.

We paid $18,500, but MSRP was about $20,000. An online inflation calculator tells me that MSRP is the equivalent $31,000 today.

Assuming you can find one, though, the MSRP on a Crosstrek is $23K and on the Impreza is under $20K. Even the larger, fancier Forester is $26K. Anyway, the point is that an entry-level Subaru is the same price today in nominal dollars as it was in 2004 and it is a nicer car in almost every respect.

So we are seeing real-term deflation in car prices over the long-term, while seeing actual inflation in what people are paying. So that puts it in a new light when the guy says "every car is a luxury car."