2023 Recession

Started by littleman, November 09, 2022, 03:33:56 AM

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littleman

It is practically a forgone conclusion.  There are a lot of companies leaning out. The FED is willing to push the economy down to stave off inflation.  What are your strategies to mitigate the pain?

Brad

Frankly, it's probably already too late for us little people to do much other than batten down our spending and conserve.

Personally, I won't be investing in any cryptocurrencies. 

If I put any more money in the stock market I'd put it in mutual funds that invest in non-Chinese (prefer USCan/UK/EU) companies that make stuff related to clean renewable energy: (wind, solar, etc.) and let it ride.

ergophobe

I know this is singularly unhelpful, but my strategy is pretty much always the same: keep my cash emergency fund topped up and be prepared to spend it if need be.

I have not been doing much (any?) belt tightening, but more trying to identify things I can reduce. Frankly, though, the big costs are insurance - homeowners and medical - and I don't have any way to bring those down.

If you're looking for a secure investment with a decent guaranteed return, I Bonds are currently at 6.89%, which isn't bad for a cash investment.

rcjordan

>I Bonds

Yeah, but they're short term, right?  2-year Treasuries were recently around 6%, IIRC.

I'm planning to check rates on jumbo CDs.

Since I'm retired, my income plans are largely locked in. 

>I have not been doing much (any?) belt tightening, but more trying to identify things I can reduce. Frankly, though, the big costs are insurance - homeowners and medical - and I don't have any way to bring those down.

Same. And travel & entertainment expenses have already been reduced.

ergophobe

>>short term, right

30 years, but redeemable after 5, earlier with penalty: "Redeemable after 12 months with three months interest penalty. No penalty after 5 years."

This is different from TIPS, which many people say are much better. TIPS have longer maturity, but they are tradeable, so you can sell. But I know nothing about bonds, so when people start talking about stuff like that, my head explodes and I go into inaction. Thus, I am not looking at TIPS
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/research-center/history-of-savings-bond/comparing-tips-to-i/

ergophobe

CDs - Ally is at 4% for 18 months. 4.1% for 5 years.

If you think inflation is going to moderate, the 5-year CD is looking pretty good compared to short-term or even compared to I Bonds, which are indexed to inflation, so if inflation comes down, so does that 7% return.

Long term CDs are a bet that inflation will come down

I Bonds are a bet that inflation will rise or only slightly moderate

rcjordan

I'm with a *very* conservative regional bank.  They were asked to buy up failed bank chains during the last banking crash.  My cash position exceeds FDIC insurance by quite a bit.  I'd like to lock in a couple of 4%+ mega-CDs with them for a few years to help offset some of the inflation.

ergophobe


littleman

Always good to read this stuff, thanks.